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From the Original Document:
"I started studying with The Shepherd's Chapel broadcast and
Dr. Arnold Murray
in the summer of 1993 and by 1996 I owned and had studied every single-subject
cassette available at the time. I also made videos from broadcasts or
bought cassettes for every
book of the Bible available, at the time. I bought and still own all the
books which were available, at the time, and I have read nearly all of them
(except a few of the archaeology books like "In Plain Sight" which I
own, but have never read). I considered
photographing my collection and posting a picture of it on this page; but I thought that would be a little ridiculous.
I'll let my understanding of Dr. Murray's teachings "serve as my credentials."
...more
In 2007
(correction) I wrote a short document titled
The Shepherd's Chapel and Dr. Arnold Murray
which tells the basic story of my experience with the Shepherd's Chapel.
That document covers what were, in my opinion, the most outstanding and egregious
false teachings of Pastor Arnold Murray and the Shepherd's Chapel. That
was a start. But, since then, this page has grown immensely. Below I
have posted additional material on other subjects and supplementary to that
original statement as well as over one hundred emails most of which are debates
with Shepherd's Chapel students.
Isaiah 41:21 "Produce your cause, saith
the LORD; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the King of Jacob."
Clarifications, Corrections, and
Retractions:
Clarification:
Do You think Pastor Arnold Murray is Intentionally
Misleading People?
No.
This has come up a few times (not just in
email) People have the impression that I think Dr. Murray is knowingly
misleading people. One Shepherd's Chapel student, in a phone conversation,
told me, "That is what it seems like."
I think that this is because The Shepherd's
Chapel is a cult of personality, so any attack on Pastor Murray's doctrine is
seen as an attack on him personally.
Also, since
Dr. Murray is personally responsible for his teaching it is not surprising that
my assessment of his teaching as being "false" is offensive to his students. I don't "judge him," as
people are constantly saying, repentance is still an option, I'm not condemning
the man. But his teachings are condemned and Arnold Murray is called to repentance for what he is
doing, it is not the sort of thing one may be excused for doing ignorantly.
Related Question:
If someone
teaches the Bible falsely, but ignorantly, will they be held responsible by God?
The answer is
yes,
Ezekiel 14:9 And if the prophet be
deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and
I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my
people Israel.
If God causes a man to be blind to the truth
and that man teaches the scriptures and speaks in the name
of the Lord. God will hold him accountable.
1 Cor 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God
in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto
our glory: 8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known
it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
If false prophets like Dr. Murray really knew
what they were doing, then they would not do it. That is why God hides the
truth from them. But they will still be held responsible for what they have
done. They were not unwilling.
Corrections:
Have you ever Misrepresented Arnold
Murray's Teachings?
Not intentionally. But YES. It has been a
while since I studied with Pastor Murray, so it did not surprise me that someone
eventually pointed out something from his teachings that I did not accurately
describe.
Email # 94.)
"You Are the Fraud!" One of My Inaccuracies
is Pointed Out by a Sharp Shepherd's Chapel Student
That email conversation contains the details of how I have made
at least one
inaccurate statement about Arnold Murray's doctrine. (But this was not
intentional) There have not been any other credible claims that my portrayal of
his doctrine is inaccurate, but I am always listening.
It does not surprise me that the issue was the
"unpardonable sin," because even when I studied with him I had trouble accepting
his explanation of what I was reading. I never fully bought into his
version of the "unpardonable sin," so no wonder I got it wrong. Sorry
about that!
The Original Document
My original document which my titled
The Shepherd's Chapel and Dr. Arnold Murray
can still be read unaltered from its original form by following the preceding
hyperlink.
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Note: This Page may be Accessed from the main
page under "Doctrine."
Newsflash: October
2, 2012
Catching up on Email, Added 8 more emails (#'s 111-104) updated the "Kenites,
Serpent's Seed and Racial Questions" page and updated the "The
Shepherd's Chapel Attacks" page.
Special Article #1: Dr Murray and the 1981
Prediction Controversy The same recklessness that led Arnold
Murray to predict the coming of AntiChrist in 1981 is still guiding him today.
Special Article #2
(UPDATED 3/2013): Was Paul
Stringini Ever Really A Student of Shepherd's Chapel?
Photographic an video evidence proving my former
dedication to the chapel.
Special Article #3: Does Dr. Murray
really teach that
ALL the Jews Are Satan's Biological Offspring (the Kenites)?
Hear it from Pastor Murray's own Lips.
Topical Indexes of Links To My Email
Archives:
1.) The Shepherd's
Chapel Attacks! This is a list of all the letters I have
received from Shepherd's Chapel Students Who Have Taken the Challenge and
Written Me to Defend Their Faith. You be the Judge: "How should one chase
a thousand?"
2.) Turned Away From Shepherd's Chapel
- This list
includes all the letters I have received from people who have turned from the doctrine of Arnold Murray.
3.)
Kenites, Serpent's Seed, and Racial Questions:
One of the most important topics for Chapel students and for those who have to
deal with them. The serpent seed doctrine is the cornerstone of Arnold
Murray's corrupt teachings.
E-MAIL Archive
Numbered Email Conversations in Regards to The
Shepherd's Chapel.
In Reverse ~Chronological~ Order
(i.e. Newest to Oldest):
(All
names and Email Addresses kept confidential)
200.) Out of Order
- 17 Year Chapel Student Does His Best To Discredit Me Exclusively Through False
Insinuation, Personal Insult, and Slander
149).
"It is very sad to read your writings about this
man, I do believe that you were not able to understand the deeper level of
teachings."
148). A Close
Encounter of the Chapel Kind
147). "I knew
Pastor Murray was a false teacher from day one But I was attracted to the way he
used the Strong's with the King James."
146). "My
question to you..... why would God say "The Lord is not slack
concerning His purpose, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us,
not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance." 2
Peter 3:9?"
145). What I would
like to ask you is what church you are going to now? Also, Easter and Christmas
144). Why He does
not call himself "Doctor" Murray, How Arnold Murray Asks for Money Every Day,
and How Murray is Critical of other Ministries.
143). My husband's
aunt is a follower of Arnold Murray. We have both tried to talk to her...
142). Everyone,
including you and Shepherd's Chapel think YOU have the real truth!
141). I've never
known how to reply to this message from a Lifelong Chapel Student, so I never
did.
140). Cain's Veiled Descendants
- Down the Rabbit-hole - This message was in regard to Cain's
descendants, but it comes from a deceptive individual who is not truly a student
of the Shepherd's Chapel but is putting forth other ideas.
139)."I have checked out Shepherd's Chapel
before coming on your site and again within minutes the flags went up after
reading their statement of faith and answer to critics."
138). Questions Regarding the Creation of Man on
the Mythical "8th" Day
137). "I have Never Heard The Chapel Call
the Jews Kenites." Arnold Murray's Deceptive Concealment of Certain
Aspects of His Teachings
136). "Who do you think fathered Cain? a Fig
Tree?"
135). "Murray said the rich man had ill gotten
gains. The Bible doesn't say his gains were ill gotten, it just says he was
rich."
134). Misdirected Mail: Answering Some Questions
that Arnold Murray Routinely Obfuscates
133). "I have fallen upon your site and I was
saddened by the hate."
132). Questions and Observations regarding the
Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, Preexistence, Baptism, and Healing
131). "I was researching Shepherd's Chapel and
came across your site." Parables, Election, Resurrection
130). "You said there will be no Rapture, and
there is no Eternal Torment. The Bible teaches both Clearly."
129). Re: The Tape documenting Arnold Murray's false
prophecy in 1981
128). Locusts = Arabs? "I won't say he's
got an agenda, I'm just putting the facts out there. It's an intentional
perversion of the word of God, a forced interpretation that makes very, very
little sense."
127).
Who is this Paul Stringini Guy? What About Revelations 2:9 and 3:9?
126). "I'm so confused now." Why would
Pastor Murray say there is no rapture? Do you think there is a Rapture? "...Thank
you so much for your info. You make more sense to me than what Pastor Murray is
saying."
125). "Why do so many now go to church on Sunday
to worship Christ, when Saturday is the Sabbath?"
124). "Why don't you bring your concerns and
issues to Pastor Murray and let him answer for himself?"
123).
"I don't want to mislead people in what I know. I ask God to show me the way."
122). "I am a follower of the Shepherd's
Chapel and have learned from their teachings...What is the unforgivable sin?"
121).
"You sir, probably
need to watch how u judge people and mind your own business."
120). A Short message to tell me I am a "Modern
day Judas Iscariot."
119). "You seriously need to study the bible more!!
How can you NOT believe in the Kenites?!!" - I give a very comprehensive answer.
118). "I wanted to do a little research of
Arnold Murray and came upon your site, now I am having second thoughts."
117). "WHO THE HECK ARE YOU? - A FRUSTRATED
MUSICIAN? NOT MUCH CRED IN MY OPINION." Subjects Covered: Apples, Eden, The
Devil's Children, Murray Being a Doctor, and Murray's Hypocrisy
116). "I have completely abandoned SC for good.
It has been a long hard road." Questions about the Trinity, Christian Conduct,
Death, the KJV, and more.
115). Questions and Comments from a Newer
Shepherd's Chapel Student
114). A Polite Inquiry Regarding My Version of
the Song of Moses and the Interview I Gave to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
113). "I Have to Give Pastor Murray a Big
Thumbs Up."
112).
"I like to Study God's Word and Mr. Murray's Show on TV Did
Inspire Me to Do That More"
111.) "I hope you
enjoy your importance now, because you won't be enjoying it long... I wouldn't
be standing in a lightning storm if I was you! May you live and
learn..........or not." 17 year Shepherd's Chapel student kindly wishes me
dead.
110.) BECAUSE they
said "He hath and Evil Spirit."
109.) "There is
something very unnatural about your hatred for Mr. Murray. I question your
belief in Jesus."
108.) Murray was
used to bring me alive. I don't see how Murray can be so wrong if God is using
him this way.
107.) If Cain was
Adam's son, Would he be in Noah's Genealogy?
106.)
"Bet this message won't make your webpage."
You lose. A very clear example of the Chapel student's reliance on Murray's
personal philosophy and wisdom as opposed to relying on the teachings of the
Bible.
105.) Your
synopsis of the "Serpent Seed Doctrine" is lacking to say the least.
(possibly a response from #46.5 Debunker #1 ? )
104.) Is There No
Way to Change Your Predicament? Predestination Problems Addressed
103.)
"Predestination... That's a bad word, For That's Not What It Is...U Believe God
Knowing Past Present and Future Everything..."
102.) "There is SO
Much in Gods Word , and no one has it all down right, I don’t understand how
someone could criticize anyone for trying"
101.) The Practice
of Judging the Teachings of Arnold Murray - Right or Wrong? Changing Minds with
Sound Doctrine
100.) "I have been
Listening to Him and Some of the Things He is Saying Do Not Make Sense."
99.) "You Kenites
Have No Clue What We Elite Have and Know, As You Speak Not a Word of What is
Real. We, GOD'S Elite, Understand the Correct Truth on Subjucts" - The
Charm, Wisdom, and Humility of a long-time Chapel follower.
98.) "I read what
you said about Eve and Cain being Adam's son, That is not the truth!"
97.)
"I believe you are biting the hand that fed you?
What really bothers me about you, is that you are trying to play God?"
95.)
"You are a Pathetic Coward Not to Mention a
Liar. You are a Dumbass to Boot."
94.)
"You Are the Fraud!" One of My Inaccuracies
is Pointed Out by a Sharp Shepherd's Chapel Student
93.)
"If What Pastor Murray is Doing is Wrong,
He Will Be Judged by YAHVEH for it. You, on the other hand..."
92.) "You sir, probably need to watch how u judge people and mind your own business."
91.)
Who Does Pastor Arnold Murray Teach Is the
Father of The Kenites?
90.)
Shepherd's Chapel Page Scaring My Mom
89.)
"What Makes Your
Views Right And His Wrong?"
88.)
"I WOULD LIKE YOU TO
EXPLAIN TO THIS SITE THE KEY OF DAVID PLEASE."
87.)
Opinions on the Mark
of the Beast
86.)
What is
the True Meaning and Power of Opinion?
85.)
"Have you considered that you may have
Kenite blood somewhere?"
84.)
"Who
are you to tell anyone they should repent?"
83.)
"I was convicted in my spirit to do a
180 as I myself had begun to study with Murray."
82.)
I recently started studying with Pastor
Murray, I was looking for a SCN forum when I stumbled onto your website.
81.)
"HOW do you propose
we "FORBID" the manifestation of the Holy Spirit?"
80.)
February 13, 2010
Seasoned Shepherd's Chapel Student Demonstrates Ignorance of the Proper Use of a
Strong's Concordance. RE-plenish? Or Fill?
79.)
"Revelation
2:9 and 3:9 tell of two church types with which Jesus found nothing wrong. What
did they teach?" My Answer: The Shepherd's Chapel is the Synagogue of Satan
78.)
Do you believe
Adam was the "first man" on earth? What are your thoughts on the "Gap Theory"?
What are your thoughts on the "Serpent" of Genesis 3? Do you still use a
Companion Bible when studying scripture?
77.) "Your Site
Looks More Like Hell"
76.)
What is the
Shepherd's Chapel View on Roman Catholicism?
75.)
"Your site is
helpful with finding a way to understand."
74)
"As a person who once heard the truth, you
have gone astray."
73.)
"The Rapture.. Does Pastor Murray have, at
least, that part right?"
72.)
Why Call Dr. Murray, "Doctor," When He
is Not a Doctor?
71.) From #44
What is the Applicability of the Dietary Restrictions of the Old Testament?
70.)
"He (Dr. Murray) is obviously blind to the bible and what it means. He is adding and taking away..."
69.)
On the Serpent Seed and Importance of Bloodlines: "Dude, let me really blow your mind."
68.)
"Have you done any research on E. Raymond Capt. Have you found him reliable?" (Anglo-Israelism)
67.)
"My Pastor/Teacher goes thru Fathers Word as Pastor Murray and broadcasts worldwide. We are the generation full of zeal for Father's Word. We are not as reserved as Dr Murray." A Shepherd's Chapel Knock-off Group Speaks Up.
66.)
"The Definition of Rapture is Joy...I am against what you said about Dr. Murray."
65.)
Adam, the "other races," and the significance of "Eth Ha Adam"
64.)
"It seems to me, you are young and looking for answers. What you have done is overloaded your thinking process."
63.)
"What ground, including
religously, and educational background (seminary with degree) you have graduated from, to have come to the determinations that you have concerning Dr. Arnold Murray and Shepard's Chapel?"
62.)
"My heart screams that I have taken too much of what Pastor Murray teaches as fact."
61.)
"I don't sense any hatred from you towards Murray as many believe." Plus a different theory about the Jews
60.)
"Just want to let you know, that you're appreciated. "
59.)
Serpents, Fruits, and Trees: Literal or Symbolic? How to decide.
58.)
"I`ve never heard Pastor Murray spew any of the filth you`ve stated."
This SCN student did not know who Dr. Murray teaches the Kenites are. I help him
with some solid proof.
57.)
"I thought I was "on my way" with great insight from Pastor Murray. What do you suggest for one seeking The Truth?"
56.)
"Has Pastor Murray ever given you any response to your article?"
55.)
"Seems to me, you might do more good by ignoring him"
54.)
"My Mom is VERY wrapped up in his teachings. This concerns me."
53.)
I have studied with Shepherds chapel for nearly 15 years now. I know all
their doctrines pretty much backwards and forwards. But I am a Bible
Student first and foremost. (Several very good questions are
discussed).
52.) "THIS IS NO JOKE" People are being deceived here. Please remember to pray for Dr. Murray and his followers."
51.) "Thank you for speaking out about Arnold Murray and his teachings."
50.) "What's wrong with digging deeper to answer the deeper questions?"
49.)
A little bit on the Sabbath and Holy Days.
48.)
"Thank you for your insight on this 'pastor.'
"
47.)
"I thought I finally found a great teacher who studied verse by verse and chapter by chapter (Dr. Murray). I was duped again."
46.5.) Debunker
#1: Response to Watchman_2's "Point by Point, Debunking Paul
Stringini." (An piece, from a public forum, attacking this site)
46.)
"You Refer to God With a Small "G," You
Are Most Likely Referring To Your God Satan"
45.)
"I
Have A Problem With An Idiot Like You Out There Trashing One Of the Best
Teachers ...What's The Matter, Did Him Get His Feelings Hurt By The Big,
Bad Pastor?... I Have A Higher Education In Psychology, Sociology And Other
Behavioral Studies ...I Believe You Are Bipolar With
Schizophrenic Tendencies ...You Suffer From Illusions of Grandeur! ...You
Weirdo!" Loving Your Enemies, Shepherd's Chapel Style
44.)
Extensive Discussion of What
Happened In the Garden of Eden and the Origin of Races
43.)
"You
should have continued in your studies with Dr. Murray for a longer period of
time."
42.)
"I
Personally Know Reformed Gang Bangers, Drunks, Drug Users, etc. That Have
Changed Because of Studying With Pastor Murray." i.e. Stop Criticizing
Pastor Murray
41.)
"I
was getting very intrigued with Mr. Murray's teachings. You Saved
Me From Making A Huge Mistake."
- 40.)
From the Same Person as 27 and 28:
Kenites, Israel, Election, and Attitude, in Multiple Parts
39.)
How can I
study the bible if I need assistance? Does God not want me to be able to
understand?
38.)
"Why
Do
You Believe That There Isn't A Rapture? / If We Are Truly Believers of the Same
Bible, Why Are We Getting Such Different Opinions From It?" And More on Where
the Dead Are.
37.)
"Our
marriage is suffering"
36.)
"It is a
Sin to Judge... You Are a Baby Christian... Throw Yourself in Front of a Bus"
35.)
"It Seems
That My Loved Ones Are Becoming More and More Hateful and Intolerant of Other
Races."
34.)
"YOU CAN GO F*** URSELF. A**HOLE. HOW F***ING DARE
YOU." (Warning: Uncensored Foul Language) Did Judas Hang Himself?
33.)
Chapel
Student Gone Bad: "She speaks a lot of herself as being the "elect," and that
she is a messenger of God."
32.)
"How Can I
Get A Tape Of Arnold Murray's 1981 Prediction?"
31.)
"I
Don’t Have A Big Problem With Your Criticisms, Only That You Feel Compelled To
Criticize"
30.)
"Thank You"
29.)
"So If You
Left Shepherds Chapel, What Do You Now Believe In?" (Very Short Answers) I refer readers to my
audio bible studies, and to a lesser extent (for now) the "What do you believe?" (which is a bit thin)
28.)
From Same
As #27 A Companion Discussion Focusing on the Serpent Seed
27.)
An
Excellent and Exhaustive 70 Page Debate Over Several Diverse Chapel Doctrines:
Serpent Seed, The Resurrection of the Dead, Predestination, Preexistence,
Kenites (This One May Need An Index)
26.)
"I
can't thank you enough for your article about Shepherd's Chapel." What Happens
When We Die?"
25.)
"How Many Humans
Were On the Ark...? What Do You Think Of Strong's Concordance?"
24.)
Thanks for
the Insight into The Shepherd's Chapel and the Ministry of Pastor Arnold Murray
23.)
"Remember
We Are All Brothers In CHRIST" i.e. It is Wrong to be Critical of The
Shepherd's Chapel and Pastor Arnold Murray
22.)
Does
Pastor Arnold Murray Teach That The Sacrifice Of Jesus Is To Be Ignored? And What About
"Ishtar"/Easter?
21.)
Tithing
and Giving: What Should I give? And Who Should I Give It To?
20.)
My First
Defense of the Modern Usage of Unknown "Tongues"
19.)
A Short Exchange
on the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
18.)
You Seem
to Miss the Point About the Seeds (the Serpent's and Eve's)
***1st
Rebuttal of the Serpent Seed Doctrine*** (See also 27&28)
17.)
Doesn't
Understand What Difference It Makes
16.)
"Noah's Little Ol' Flood"
15.)
The Man I Love Is a Follower of the
Shepherd's Chapel Part 4 - The Rapture
14.)
A Discussion of the Trinity, What is It? What
Isn't It? Why Dr. Murray's "One God Three Offices" Is
Not the Trinity.
13.)
DR. MURRAY IS GOD'S ANOINTED
12.)
I Agree With Some, And Disagree With Some
11.)
You Burned
Down Murray - Without Knowing About the Offspring of Satan
You Cannot Teach the Word
10.)
Good Insights!
9.)
I Can Tell That
You Know His Teachings Well... I Have Watched Pastor Arnold Murray Since 1994
8.)
Does 1 John 5:7-8
Establish the Trinity? Agrees on the Serpent's Seed
7.)
The Man I Love Is a Follower of the
Shepherd's Chapel Part 3 - Communication Problems
6.)
The Man I Love Is a Follower of the
Shepherd's Chapel Part 2 - What Can I Expect From the Genesis Tapes?
5.)
The Man I Love Is a Follower of the
Shepherd's Chapel Part 1 - Am I Racially Pure Enough?
4.)
This Article
is Full of YOU and OPINION ! ! !
3.)
Really Likes
Shepherd's Chapel's "Messianic" Aspect; Asks, "Where Else Can I Go?"
2.)
A Discussion
Primarily About Election/Predestination/The Sovereignty of God with a Little
about Race Mixing.
1.)
24 Questions From an Evangelical Pastor Murray Detractor
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