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"I started studying with The Shepherd's Chapel broadcast and Dr. Arnold Murray in the summer of 1993 and by 1996 I owned and had studied every single-subject cassette available at the time.  I also made videos from broadcasts or bought cassettes for every book of the Bible available, at the time.  I bought and still own all the books which were available, at the time, and I have read nearly all of them (except a few of the archaeology books like "In Plain Sight" which I own but have never read).  I considered photographing my collection and posting a picture of it on this page; but I thought that would be a little ridiculous.  I'll let my understanding of Dr. Murray's teachings "serve as my credentials." ...more

In 2007 (correction) I wrote a document titled The Shepherd's Chapel and Dr. Arnold Murray which tells the story of my experience with the Shepherd's Chapel.  That document covers what are, in my opinion, the most outstanding and egregious false teachings of Pastor Arnold Murray and the Shepherd's Chapel.  That was a start. But  since then this page has grown immensely, below I have posted additional material on other subjects and supplementary to that original statement as well as over one hundred emails most of which are debates with Shepherd's Chapel students.

Isaiah 41:21 "Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the King of Jacob."

Line By Line Bible Studies With Paul Stringini - Why read all this wrangling over Dr. Murray's errors when you can listen to my free, book by book, chapter by chapter, line by line,  audio Bible study and hear the truth! There are already many books available for download and many more are coming. Bringing you the truth of the Gospel, indeed, as it is WRITTEN, and as it was INTENDED.

Special Article #1: Dr Murray and the 1981 Prediction Controversy

Special Article #2: Was Paul Stringini Ever Really A Student of Shepherd's Chapel?

Special Article #3: Does Dr. Murray Teach that ALL the Jews Are Satan's Biological Offspring (the Kenites)? 

Most Frequently Asked #1: "So, What Do You Believe?"

This is an opportunity, for anyone who wishes, to ask questions, deconstruct my criticism of the Chapel, or just have their say.  I promise I will respond to and post even the most convincing Pro-Shepherd's Chapel material, unedited (except for some spelling, grammar, and punctuation). So send your rebuttals, questions and comments to reborn@oraclesofgod.org and they will appear here when I update this page.  Sending an email to the given address implies your consent to have our discussion available for the public to read.   All personal information, including names and email addresses, are kept strictly confidential. 

(One Note before you write I have been debating these subjects for over four years now, if you want to challenge me about something, do us both a favor and check and see what has been said already on the subject by other Chapel students.  You will save me time and you will gain knowledge of what my arguments are going to be should you decide to take the challenge. Taking my advice would be wise since Shepherd's Chapel students have done very poorly against me so far.)

Topical Indexes of Links To My Email Archives:  

1.) The Shepherd's Chapel Attacks!  This is a list of all the letters I have received from Shepherd's Chapel Students Who Have Taken the Challenge and Written Me to Defend Their Faith. You be the Judge:  "How should one chase a thousand?"

2.)  Turned Away From Shepherd's Chapel - This list includes all the letters I have received from people who have turned from the doctrine of Arnold Murray.

3.) Kenites, Serpent's Seed, and Racial Questions:  One of the most important topics for Chapel students.

And Other Topical Indexes Coming

All-Inclusive Numbered List of Links to Every Email Conversation I Have Had in Regards to This Site.

In Reverse ~Chronological~ Order: (All names and Email Addresses kept confidential)

95.)  "You are a Pathetic Coward Not to Mention a Liar. You are a Dumbass to Boot."

94.)  "You Are the Fraud!"  One of My Inaccuracies is Pointed Out by a Sharp Shepherd's Chapel Student

93.)  "If What Pastor Murray is Doing is Wrong, He Will Be Judged by YAHVEH for it. You, on the other hand..."

92.) "You sir, probably need to watch how u judge people and mind your own business."

91.)  Who Does Pastor Arnold Murray Teach Is the Father of The Kenites?

90.)  Shepherd's Chapel Page Scaring My Mom

89.)  "What Makes Your Views Right And His Wrong?"

88.) "I WOULD LIKE YOU TO EXPLAIN TO THIS SITE THE KEY OF DAVID PLEASE."

87.) Opinions on the Mark of the Beast

86.)  What is the True Meaning and Power of Opinion?

85.) "Have you considered that you may have Kenite blood somewhere?"

84.)  "Who are you to tell anyone they should repent?"

83.)  "I was convicted in my spirit to do a 180 as I myself had begun to study with Murray."

82.)  I recently started studying with Pastor Murray, I was looking for a SCN forum when I stumbled onto your website.

81.)  "HOW do you propose we "FORBID" the manifestation of the Holy Spirit?"

80.)  February 13, 2010 Seasoned Shepherd's Chapel Student Demonstrates Ignorance of the Proper Use of a Strong's Concordance. RE-plenish? Or Fill?

79.) "Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 tell of two church types with which Jesus found nothing wrong. What did they teach?" My Answer: The Shepherd's Chapel is the Synagogue of Satan

78.) Do you believe Adam was the "first man" on earth? What are your thoughts on the "Gap Theory"? What are your thoughts on the "Serpent" of Genesis 3?  Do you still use a Companion Bible when studying scripture? 

77.) "Your Site Looks More Like Hell"

76.) What is the Shepherd's Chapel View on Roman Catholicism?

75.) "Your site is helpful with finding a way to understand."

74) "As a person who once heard the truth, you have gone astray."

73.) "The Rapture.. Does Pastor Murray have, at least, that part right?"

72.) Why Call Dr. Murray, "Doctor,"  When He is Not a Doctor?

71.) From #44 What is the Applicability of the Dietary Restrictions of the Old Testament?

70.) "He (Dr. Murray) is obviously blind to the bible and what it means. He is adding and taking away..."

69.) On the Serpent Seed and Importance of Bloodlines: "Dude, let me really blow your mind."

68.) "Have you done any research on E. Raymond Capt.  Have you found him reliable?" (Anglo-Israelism)

67.) "My Pastor/Teacher goes thru Fathers Word as Pastor Murray and broadcasts worldwide. We are the generation full of zeal for Father's Word.  We are not as reserved as Dr Murray." A Shepherd's Chapel Knock-off Group Speaks Up.

66.) "The Definition of Rapture is Joy...I am against what you said about Dr. Murray."

65.) Adam, the "other races," and the significance of "Eth Ha Adam"

64.) "It seems to me, you are young and looking for answers. What you have done is overloaded your thinking process."

63.) "What ground, including religously, and educational background (seminary with degree) you have graduated from, to have come to the determinations that you have concerning Dr. Arnold Murray and Shepard's Chapel?"

62.) "My heart screams that I have taken too much of what Pastor Murray teaches as fact."

61.) "I don't sense any hatred from you towards Murray as many believe." Plus a different theory about the Jews

60.) "Just want to let you know, that you're appreciated. "

59.) Serpents, Fruits, and Trees: Literal or Symbolic? How to decide.

58.) "I`ve never heard Pastor Murray spew any of the filth you`ve stated." This SCN student did not know who Dr. Murray teaches the Kenites are. I help him with some solid proof.

57.) "I thought I was "on my way" with great insight from Pastor Murray. What do you suggest for one seeking The Truth?"

56.) "Has Pastor Murray ever given you any response to your article?"

55.) "Seems to me, you might do more good by ignoring him"

54.) "My Mom is VERY wrapped up in his teachings. This concerns me."

53.) I have studied with Shepherds chapel for nearly 15 years now. I know all their doctrines pretty much backwards and forwards. But I am a Bible Student first and foremost.  (Several very good questions are discussed).

52.) "THIS IS NO JOKE" People are being  deceived here. Please remember to pray for Dr. Murray and his followers." 

51.) "Thank you for speaking out about Arnold Murray and his teachings."

50.) "What's wrong with digging deeper to answer the deeper questions?"

49.) A little bit on the Sabbath and Holy Days.

48.) "Thank you for your insight on this 'pastor.' "

47.) "I thought I finally found a great teacher who studied verse by verse and chapter by chapter (Dr. Murray). I was duped again." 

Debunker #1: Response to Watchman_2's "Point by Point, Debunking Paul Stringini."  (An piece, from a public forum, attacking this site)

46.) "You Refer to God With a Small "G," You Are Most Likely Referring To Your God Satan"

45.) "I Have A Problem With An Idiot Like You Out There Trashing One Of the Best Teachers  ...What's The Matter, Did Him Get His Feelings Hurt By The Big, Bad Pastor?... I Have A Higher Education In Psychology, Sociology And Other Behavioral Studies ...I Believe You Are Bipolar With Schizophrenic Tendencies ...You Suffer From Illusions of Grandeur! ...You Weirdo!"  Loving Your Enemies, Shepherd's Chapel Style

44.) Extensive Discussion of  What Happened In the Garden of Eden and the Origin of Races

43.) "You should have continued in your studies with Dr. Murray for a longer period of time."

42.) "I Personally Know Reformed Gang Bangers, Drunks, Drug Users, etc. That Have Changed Because of Studying With Pastor Murray."  i.e. Stop Criticizing Pastor Murray

41.) "I was getting very intrigued with Mr. Murray's teachings. You Saved Me From Making A Huge Mistake."

40.) From the Same Person as 27 and 28: Kenites, Israel, Election, and Attitude, in Multiple Parts
    a.) Kenites, Are All the Jews Kenites? What Dr. Murray Has Said, Plus: Debunking the Nethinim Myth. Did the Kenites Take Over the Priesthood? (Extensive)
    b) Israel: What Really Happened to the Lost Tribes? The Truth  Revealed, from Scripture, Plus: Did the Kenites take over the priesthood?  Examining The evidence from scripture (Extensive)
    c.) Tangent: "Paul, You Have a Singular Reprobate Mind." And Other Flatteries
    d.) So-Called "Final analysis of Kenites and Blindness" Semi-Conclusion of both 40a and 40b
    e.) Predestination f.) Do you Know Lance Knight?  g.) Psalm 82 h.) No Respecter
    i.) "You are not as intellegent as you let on Paul... you let slip your true nature," -- With Extensive Rebuttal

39.) How can I study the bible if I need assistance? Does God not want me to be able to understand?

38.) "Why Do You Believe That There Isn't A Rapture? / If We Are Truly Believers of the Same Bible, Why Are We Getting Such Different Opinions From It?" And More on Where the Dead Are.

37.) "Our marriage is suffering"

36.) "It is a Sin to Judge... You Are a Baby Christian... Throw Yourself in Front of a Bus"

35.) "It Seems That My Loved Ones Are Becoming More and More Hateful and Intolerant of Other Races."

34.) "YOU CAN GO F*** URSELF. A**HOLE. HOW F***ING DARE YOU." (Warning: Uncensored Foul Language) Did Judas Hang Himself?

33.) Chapel Student Gone Bad: "She speaks a lot of herself as being the "elect," and that she is a messenger of God."

32.) "How Can I Get A Tape Of Arnold Murray's 1981 Prediction?"

31.) "I Don’t Have A Big Problem With Your Criticisms, Only That You Feel Compelled To Criticize"

30.) "Thank You"

29.) "So If You Left Shepherds Chapel, What Do You Now Believe In?" (Very Short Answers) I refer readers to my audio bible studies, and to a lesser extent (for now) the "What do you believe?" (which is a bit thin)

28.) From Same As #27 A Companion Discussion Focusing on the Serpent Seed

27.) An Excellent and Exhaustive 70 Page Debate Over Several Diverse Chapel Doctrines: Serpent Seed, The Resurrection of the Dead, Predestination, Preexistence, Kenites (This One May Need An Index)

26.) "I can't thank you enough for your article about Shepherd's Chapel." What Happens When We Die?"

25.) "How Many Humans Were On the Ark...? What Do You Think Of Strong's Concordance?"

24.) Thanks for the Insight into The Shepherd's Chapel and the Ministry of Pastor Arnold Murray

23.) "Remember We Are All Brothers In CHRIST"  i.e. It is Wrong to be Critical of The Shepherd's Chapel and Pastor Arnold Murray

22.) Does Pastor Arnold Murray Teach That The Sacrifice Of Jesus Is To Be Ignored? And What About "Ishtar"/Easter?

21.) Tithing and Giving: What Should I give? And Who Should I Give It To?

20.) My First Defense of the Modern Usage of Unknown "Tongues"

19.) A Short  Exchange on the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit

18.) You Seem to Miss the Point About the Seeds (the Serpent's and Eve's) ***1st Rebuttal of the Serpent Seed Doctrine*** (See also 27&28)

17.) Doesn't Understand What Difference It Makes

16.) "Noah's Little Ol' Flood"

15.) The Man I Love Is a Follower of the Shepherd's Chapel Part 4 - The Rapture

14.) A Discussion of the Trinity, What is It? What Isn't It?  Why Dr. Murray's "One God Three Offices" Is Not the Trinity.

13.) DR. MURRAY IS GOD'S ANOINTED

12.) I Agree With Some, And Disagree With Some

11.) You Burned Down Murray - Without Knowing About the Offspring of Satan You Cannot Teach the Word

10.) Good Insights!

9.) I Can Tell That You Know His Teachings Well... I Have Watched Pastor Arnold Murray Since 1994

8.) Does 1 John 5:7-8 Establish the Trinity?  Agrees on the Serpent's Seed

7.) The Man I Love Is a Follower of the Shepherd's Chapel Part 3 - Communication Problems

6.) The Man I Love Is a Follower of the Shepherd's Chapel Part 2 - What Can I Expect From the Genesis Tapes?

5.) The Man I Love Is a Follower of the Shepherd's Chapel Part 1 - Am I Racially Pure Enough?

4.) This Article is Full of YOU and OPINION ! ! !

3.) Really Likes Shepherd's Chapel's "Messianic" Aspect; Asks, "Where Else Can I Go?"

2.) A Discussion Primarily About Election/Predestination/The Sovereignty of God with a Little about Race Mixing.

1.) 24 Questions From an Evangelical Pastor Murray Detractor

Clarifications:

Do You think Pastor Arnold Murray is Intentionally Misleading People? The short of it: No. (But I Do Think God Is Intentionally Misleading Pastor Arnold Murray)

This has come up a few times (not just in email) People have the impression that I think Dr. Murray is knowingly misleading people.  One Shepherd's Chapel student, in a phone conversation, told me, "That is what it seems like."  I think that this is because I hold Dr. Murray personally responsible for his Misteaching.

The question is this:  if someone misteaches the Bible, ignorantly, will they be held responsible by God?

The answer is yes,

Ezekiel 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.

If God causes a man to be blind to the truth and that man teaches the scriptures and speaks in the name of the Lord.  God will hold him accountable.

1 Cor 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

If false prophets like Dr. Murray really knew what they were doing, then they would not do it.  That is why God hides the truth from them.

Retractions:

A big one coming, I said in a newspaper article that Dr. Murray was a "pretty good" teacher, What was I thinking!  More to come...

My original document which  my titled The Shepherd's Chapel and Dr. Arnold Murray can still be read unaltered from its original form by following the preceding hyperlink. 


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