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Kenites, Serpent's Seed, and Racial Questions:

If You would like to debate me on this subject please read the following first.

This is one of the most important topics for the students of Arnold Murray and the Shepherd's Chapel, but is it one of the most important questions in Christianity?

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

I acknowledge the earthly distinctiveness of races. And I will also acknowledge the reality and nature of political and racial hatred. But though these groups are distinct and don't get along very well in the world, it still remains that according to scripture, they are still all distantly descended from one man/family.

Acts 17:26 And hath made of one all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Branches of this family have been separated by time and distance and by the will of God.  The stated purpose of this separation was to restrain mankind's ambitions.

Genesis 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.  8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth:...

Out of the isolation created by the division of Babel, the races have arisen. From this I infer that racial differences are a weakness and not a strength.

Racial differences exist, but they are not a part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, except that the Gospel calls us to lay aside these differences to become unified in the Spirit as the children of God.

Some people might call me a racist because I prefer Western Civilization and I teach my children about the great accomplishments of their European ancestors (and also their failures, to be learned from). Others say that I'm a Kenite or a Kenite-loving traitor to our race. But I really don't put much stock in the opinions of of my detractors, on either side.

I have a natural affection for my heritage and I'm not at all ashamed of any of it (I have a German Grandmother (who was in the Hitler Youth), A Polish-German Grandfather [German Army], a blue-eyed Italian Grandfather, and a Scotch/English/Irish/French descendant of early American colonists [with names like Kame, Stewart, Dolan, and Burnhart]).

My heritage does not come from my deeds; my heritage is the story of my family, I have always been fascinated by it.  There are Viking Raiders, SS Nazi's, Peasant Farmers, and Native American slayers among my kin, and I'm not in the least ashamed. They are just my distant family.  I'm not in the least Jewish nor is anyone connected with me Jewish.

The children of the devil are those who do not do righteousness, and the Children of God are those who overcome sin in the flesh. That is what the bible teaches, like it or not.

1John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

The Jews whom Jesus labeled the serpent's offspring were evil because of their thoughts and deeds; their evil did not arise from their racial distinctiveness. People often point out how that Blacks are statistically more likely to commit a violent crime than a White or a Jew, and  a Jew is statistically more likely to be a banker and steal a few trillion dollars and pay no penalty, than a Black or even a non-Jewish White, are these racist statements? These are facts that we are not supposed to acknowledge, I guess I'd be called a racist even mentioning these observations, but I do not put my faith in race, so I'm not a racist. The nature of sin may be effected by certain inherited characteristics, (this goes for all racial stereotypes) but I'm not interested in crawling down that rat-hole. Because the evil itself does not come from being of one race or another, it comes from the Satanic influence on humanity and we all share in that equally. All men are equally sinners. Statistics and racial stereotypes say something about groups only, and have some truth to them, no doubt, but the Gospel is for individuals, not groups, therefore my ministry is not about races and groups but about individual victory over sin.

Acts 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath showed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Many students of Arnold Murray and other identity teachers will readily admit that they themselves are sinful. Yet they insist on saying that the "Jews" (Kenites) are the devil's children. And where does that logically take us? Are the Jews therefore greater sinners? Are the sins of the Jews (Kenites) less excusable than the sins of Non-Jews (Non-Kenites)? Really: what are they trying to say? Where do these ideas lead us? In the New Testament it is clear that the genealogical Jewishness of those who are referred to as Jews is NEVER QUESTIONED.

This is Where The Serpent Seed Doctrine Absolutely Fails: Read these verses CAREFULLY.

John 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

John 8:39 ...They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

They are the genetic offspring of Abraham but not the spiritual offspring of Abraham. This is a question which no Shepherd's Chapel student has EVER been able to answer and it stands as a testimony to the poverty of your doctrine and to the fact that God is not with you in it. In John Chapter 8 Jesus says that on one hand that they are Abraham's children and on the other that they are not Abraham's children.

Jesus calls them "Abraham's seed." That is either carnal or spiritual. He then denies they are Abraham's children, and that also is either carnal or physical. They cannot be both "Abraham's seed" and "not his children" genealogically. They cannot be both "Abraham's seed" and "not his children" spiritually. Then it follows that they are either Abraham's seed genealogically and Satan's seed Spiritually, or they must be Abraham's children spiritually, and the Devil's seed carnally, and obviously the first one is the only one that makes sense since these were wicked men. The only logical answer is that Jesus acknowledged that they were the flesh and blood offspring of Abraham, but that since they did not follow the deeds of Abraham they were the spiritual offspring of Satan. That is the only logical interpretation. And that is the truth.

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

That is the truth, that is how it is. So the Kenite doctrine is null and void. If anyone wants to see "the blasphemy of them that say they are Jews and are not but do lie," all they have to do is read the emails I get from zealous Pseudo-Anglo-Israeli Shepherd's Chapel students who open their mouths to give themselves to cursing and blasphemy. 

And, yes, I'm aware of the Khazarians, but they came nearly a millennia after Christ (and genetic studies of the Jews show genetic similarity across all branches of Judaism) and my main point is that those who rejected Christ were very much the offspring of Abraham, just like those who murmured in the wilderness, just like those who rejected God as their King, and just like those who killed the prophets.  

Resorting to claims that the Jews are the carnal offspring of the Devil is unnecessary to explain the evil that dwells in the Jews and in all mankind.  To yield to this philosophy is to toss aside the teachings of Christ in favor a doctrine that demonizes the Jews above all other people and as far as I am concerned that is dangerous thinking.

Below is the wreckage of every person who tried to debate me on this subject and the related scriptures. Instead of emailing me half-cocked, like most of these did. I advise you to read what they wrote first to see if you can do better. Why waste my time and your time if you are not up to the task? Why give me another example of poor scholarship and bad attitude? Why should you write me and give me another fine example of how corrupt the doctrine of Arnold Murray is and of how poorly educated and lazy his students are? I'm serious, many of these emails are an embarrassment. For a ministry that boasts itself in the high quality of its bible studies and in deft scriptural knowledge of it's students, this is an embarrassment which exposes the truth about Arnold Murray's teachings. Don't email to debate me, you will be defeated, study by yourself and then email me and tell me how you found the truth with God's help or email me with a respectful question.

107.) If Cain was Adam's son, Would he be in Noah's Genealogy?
105.) Your synopsis of the "Serpent Seed Doctrine" is lacking to say the least. (possibly a response from #46.5 Debunker #1 ? )
99.) "You Kenites Have No Clue What We Elite Have and Know, As You Speak Not a Word of What is Real. We, GOD'S Elite, Understand the Correct Truth on Subjucts" - The Charm, Wisdom, and Humility of a long-time Chapel follower.
98.) "I read what you said about Eve and Cain being Adam's son, That is not the truth!"
91.)  Who Does Pastor Arnold Murray Teach Is the Father of The Kenites?
85.) "Have you considered that you may have Kenite blood somewhere?"
79.) "Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 tell of two church types with which Jesus found nothing wrong. What did they teach?" My Answer: The Shepherd's Chapel is the Synagogue of Satan
78.) Do you believe Adam was the "first man" on earth? What are your thoughts on the "Gap Theory"? What are your thoughts on the "Serpent" of Genesis 3?  Do you still use a Companion Bible when studying scripture? 
75.) "Your site is helpful with finding a way to understand."
69.) On the Serpent Seed and Importance of Bloodlines: "Dude, let me really blow your mind."
68.) "Have you done any research on E. Raymond Capt.  Have you found him reliable?" (Anglo-Israelism)
65.) Adam, the "other races," and the significance of "Eth Ha Adam"
59.) Serpents, Fruits, and Trees: Literal or Symbolic? How to decide.
58.) "I`ve never heard Pastor Murray spew any of the filth you`ve stated." This SCN student did not know who Dr. Murray teaches the Kenites are (and calls that teaching filth). Oops!
50.) "What's wrong with digging deeper to answer the deeper questions?"
46.5.) Debunker #1: Response to Watchman_2's "Point by Point, Debunking Paul Stringini."  (An piece, from a public forum, attacking this site)
44.) Extensive Discussion of  What Happened In the Garden of Eden and the Origin of Races
40.) From the Same Person as 27 and 28: Kenites, Israel, Election, and Attitude, in Multiple Parts
    a.) Kenites, Are All the Jews Kenites? What Dr. Murray Has Said, Plus: Debunking the Nethinim Myth. Did the Kenites Take Over the Priesthood? (Extensive)
    b) Israel: What Really Happened to the Lost Tribes? The Truth  Revealed, from Scripture, Plus: Did the Kenites take over the priesthood?  Examining The evidence from scripture (Extensive)
    c.) Tangent: "Paul, You Have a Singular Reprobate Mind." And Other Flatteries
    d.) So-Called "Final analysis of Kenites and Blindness" Semi-Conclusion of both 40a and 40b
28.) From Same As #27 A Companion Discussion Focusing on the Serpent Seed
27.) An Excellent and Exhaustive 70 Page Debate Over Several Diverse Chapel Doctrines: Serpent Seed, The Resurrection of the Dead, Predestination, Preexistence, Kenites (This One May Need An Index)
25.) "How Many Humans Were On the Ark...? What Do You Think Of Strong's Concordance?"
18.) You Seem to Miss the Point About the Seeds (the Serpent's and Eve's) ***1st Rebuttal of the Serpent Seed Doctrine*** (See also 27&28)
16.) "Noah's Little Ol' Flood"
11.) You Burned Down Murray - Without Knowing About the Offspring of Satan You Cannot Teach the Word
8.) Does 1 John 5:7-8 Establish the Trinity?  Agrees on the Serpent's Seed
6.) The Man I Love Is a Follower of the Shepherd's Chapel Part 2 - What Can I Expect From the Genesis Tapes?
5.) The Man I Love Is a Follower of the Shepherd's Chapel Part 1 - Am I Racially Pure Enough?
2.) A Discussion Primarily About Election/Predestination/The Sovereignty of God with a Little about Race Mixing.

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