I have a few questions for you are you able to help me with them? (Prophecy Related)

I have a few questions for you are you able to help me with them? (Current Events and Prophecy Related)

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From: Paul Stringini

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Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 11:40 AM

Subject: Re: Hi

Arnold Murray plays his cards very close to the vest, if you had gone to his Passover meeting you would have heard how he thinks the sixth trumpet has sounded. Back in 1995 when I went to one of the Passover meetings he had said we were in the fifth trump.

I think he is full of himself and totally wrong. We are not living in the end times, not yet anyway. No trumpets have sounded. Nothing is coming to pass. Currently it is just the same old, same old. According to Jesus when the end times come, it won't be some secret only Arnold Murray can unravel.

Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

The idea that we could have gotten through 5 or six trumps without anyone (except Dr. Arnold Murray and his faithful students, of course) noticing is absolutely ridiculous. I do believe that the end times could begin soon, but I would also allow that the end times may be some time off. (Personally I think they may be about 15 years off, and we ought to thank God if they are) They have been telling me my whole life that I was living in the end times and, frankly, these guys are totally wrong.

The end times are not some secret only to be known by a few enlightened elites. The whole world is going to know it is the end of the age. Those that have not prepared themselves in faith spiritually may be caught up in the perplexity and confusion of those days. And of course, many people will die during those years. One third of the people on earth will die.

1Cor 14:8 8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?

The trumpets of Revelation are the most important and visible signs of the end. They are called "trumpets" because they are intended to send a message, they are supposed to be a clear and CERTAIN signal that the end is underway. Arnold Murray was saying we were in the 5th trumpet in 1995 and that was what initially began to turn me off from his teachings, he also falsely predicted the end back in the 80's I have a special page dedicated to that, Arnold turns TRUMPETS into WHISPERS and they only sound in his ears. What arrogance. The man has proven himself to be a false prophet in the past and still keeps using the same questionable methods of interpretation to unlock secrets that God has his from the eyes of men...

Col 2:18 ...intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

Guys like Murray like to delve into secrets, and people love to be told things they think are secret, but it is mostly the vain imaginations of men exalting themselves above the knowledge given by Christ..

2Cor10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

I believe that the first several trumpets are literal events which the whole world will recognize as being harbingers of the end. This is the simple view and makes sense. The idea that these "signals" could have happened without any clear event to tie them to is just bogus. The later trumpets are slightly more veiled in symbology, When the time comes, the faithful will recognize and understand what those passages mean.

Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

So to sum my view up, we are not living in the end times, not yet anyway, and the end times will begin with the first trumpet, this will be the SIGNAL (a trumpet is a signal) that the end has begun. As follows: Hail and fire mingled with blood, (the blood could come from creatures that are struck by this deadly hail). the hail may not be normal hail, it may come from space and be the flaming broken pieces of an icy comet. The hail and fire will be immediately followed by the second trump, the mountain burning with fire which is cast into the sea, which I think is likely referring to a comet, a rocky part of a comet or meteor striking the earth somewhere in the seas. The devastation will destroy a third of sea life and a third of shipping. This is followed by the third trump which may be related or may be a second smaller object which will poison a third of the earth's fresh water, in the fourth trump the skies will be darkened, probably from the ash that will be thrown up into the sky from the impacts and from the forest and grass fires (first trump).

After that it gets a little harder to understand, but as the angel told Daniel, the wise will understand. So we ought to be wise and cleanse ourselves from unrighteousness and sin and walk worthy of the calling of our Lord Jesus Christ, because when those days do come, there will be no doubt what is happening, only doubt as to what we should do. The Lord will guide the faithful in those days.

All one has to do is read the trumpets to know PM is full of it, and so is every other end-time preacher who claims we are already in the last days. I want to see the kingdom of our Lord come and I do wish to serve God in those days, but they are not here yet, if now actually was the tribulation? all I can say is that would be the biggest disappointment EVER. This would be the most pathetic end-times. I can't even express it in writing.

Everything I ever read in the bible tells me that the end times are not some secret event,

Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Now I would add, that those days will certainly be a surprise when they begin to happen, but once things get going there will be no doubt that the age is ending...