What really bothers me about you, is that you are trying to play God? How? BY accusing Pastor Murray as a false Prophet, and condemming him and his students to hell.

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I believe you are biting the hand that fed you? What really bothers me about you, is that you are trying to play God?

Question/Comment:

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From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

To: reborn@oraclesofgod.org

Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 11:47 PM

Subject: RE: Pastor Murray

In Regards to Pastor Murray, I believe you are biting the hand that fed you? Now if GOD led you to him! Would you be biting GOD'S hand? Now if GOD allowed satin to lead you to Pastor Murray. WHY? To warn all his students about him? All his students have to be less than 1% of the worlds population. Now in these last days we have a whole world lost.{The whole world will be decieved, EXCEPT the Elect} Now you have website bashing the man that led you to the BIBLE. I don't believe Pastor Murray is perfect by know means, are you? Have you ever been mistaken, or lied about something so you did not hurt somebodys feelings? Or lusted ? Or drank to much? What really bothers me about you, is that you are trying to play God? How? BY accusing Pastor Murray as a false Prophet, and condemming him and his students to hell. I don't work for shepherds chapel, I have listen on and off for almost 20 yrs. Of all the worlds preachers, priests, evanligests, Doctors on TV and the radio, Except Michael Savage Who is a Jew, just like CHRIST. Are the only ones makeing sense in this evil world. Pastor Murray is not JESUS CHRIST. He is a man that GOD has blessed with a whole lot of Truth. To be passed on to a lost world.

Like you, I know I will be held to what I believe.

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My Response:

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From: Paul Stringini

To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 3:15 PM

Subject: Re: Pastor Murray

Hi,

I believe you are biting the hand that fed you?

Not really, because most of what Dr. Murray fed me was corrupt. I'm thankful for the maggot filled bread only while I'm starving.

Now if GOD led you to him! Would you be biting GOD'S hand?

No, because just because God leads me somewhere does not mean he intends to keep me there (editorial comment: As God led the Children of Israel into Egypt). Maybe God lead me to Murray so that later I would "bite" him? God lead the Apostle Paul to study under Gamaliel, but Paul later renounced everything he had profited in the Jews religion and accounted it as "dung." God leads us many places for many purposes.

Now if GOD allowed satin to lead you to Pastor Murray. WHY?

Well, I don't think Satan is leading me.

To warn all his students about him?

No, mostly I'm trying to stop people from ever becoming his students, I want to get them before they are conditioned and become indoctrinated with Pastor Arnold Murray's teachings.

All his students have to be less than 1% of the worlds population.

So? That is still a lot of people. The local church is about 60 people. That is less than 1% of the people who are in the Shepherd's Chapel. So what? If the Shepherd's Chapel is too small for you, I say it is just the right size for me to start.

Now in these last days we have a whole world lost.{The whole world will be decieved, EXCEPT the Elect}

I don't see your point, if that is the case, then we are all doing exactly as we should. In that case, we agree.

Now you have website bashing the man that led you to the BIBLE.

That is wrong. Dr. Murray did not lead me to the bible. I was already interested in the bible, long before I ran into Dr. Murray. My father deserves the credit for leading me to the bible. he bought me bibles encouraged me to read them, preached the gospel to me, and prayed for me. What Pastor Arnold Murray did was fill my head with a bunch of useless information that seems to be most effective at puffing certian kinds of people up. You seem alright, but the knowledge Dr. Murray teaches is not the kind that leads to salvation.

I don't believe Pastor Murray is perfect by know means, are you?

What does it matter if I am or am not? I'll say this, that I do not corrupt my doctrine with the leaven and traditions of men, as Dr. Murray does. Fables, imaginations, and fantasies.

Have you ever been mistaken,

Sure

or lied about something so you did not hurt somebodys feelings?

Sure

Or lusted ?

Yes.

Or drank to much?

Way too much. And taught false doctrine too. So what? All have sinned, but at least I'm willing to admit that what I did is wrong, and also to change my ways and my doctrine. Is Dr. Murray Changing? You tell me he has repented and I'll say I forgive him. If he repented he would praise me, and so would you.

What really bothers me about you, is that you are trying to play God?

How?

How? BY accusing Pastor Murray as a false Prophet, and condemming him and his students to hell.

I never condemned anyone to hell. But if they continue in their ways they will condemn themselves. I don't make the crimes, I just declare God's word. God makes the rules not me. We know the judgment of God. You proved it by asking me those personal questions.

But even while you say that of me, you are the one who said it, not me, and it wasn't really you that said it either, it was God who condemned false prophets, not us. "Beware of false prophets." But just because I call Dr. Murray a false prophet, does that mean all his students are going to hell? If I am right, the warning just might save a few, did you ever think of that?

I'm not playing God, I'm just a fruit inspector. So if you want to keep eating rancid fruit, you won't be able to say that no one warned you. It is really very simple, but due to your biblical illiteracy you don't really know what is right to do. I'm doing what is right... have you not read?

Eze 13 18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

I have to warn them, or I will have to pay for it.

I don't work for shepherds chapel, I have listen on and off for almost 20 yrs. Of all the worlds preachers, priests, evanligests, Doctors on TV and the radio, Except Michael Savage Who is a Jew, just like CHRIST. Are the only ones makeing sense in this evil world.

Maybe Pastor Murray makes sense in this world, but he does not make sense in the bible, that is my position.

Pastor Murray is not JESUS CHRIST.

And at his age he ought to be almost there...And he does not even set that as his GOAL. Well that is MY goal, to be Jesus Christ. I really don't care what scoffers and doubters say, I still believe in Jesus Christ. If you don't, then keep your Pastor Murray and his lackluster ways.

Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Ephesians 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

II Corinthians 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

He is a man that GOD has blessed with a whole lot of Truth. To be passed on to a lost world.

Obviously, I disagree.

Sincerely,

Paul Stringini

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