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Question/Comment:
----- Original Message -----
From: Name and Address Withheld
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:38 AM
Subject: A letter to you
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Paul, I am going to offer up a prayer for you to our Heavenly
Father. I am also going to tell you that I have a demon, and I know
it. This I also know, that in the appointed time, I will be
delivered to accomplish GOD'S plan. As a person who once heard the
truth, you have gone astray, as I have....I have suffered greatly
for my sin of doing drugs, and am under a current period of
correction. I will fight the good fight of faith. Don't be
highminded to take it upon yourself to feel that you are a prophet,
for Jesus said, "I have foretold you all things."
As a fellow seeker of the WORD, I have erred in my understanding in
the past. Though I be tormented night and day, I know that GOD will
see HIS people through until the end. Please don't let satan deceive
you. In reality, who can know who is going to make it but GOD alone.
You were drawn to the truth, and heard it. You are an elect. Please
quit stirring up contraversies among the brethren who know the
truth. Can you feel the end coming? Can you feel that great day
aproaching? Don't take minor things and blow them all out of
proportion. Let the HOLY SPIRIT lead you. Humble yourself before the
LIVING GOD. Do the best you can at whatever GOD has appointed you to
do, and know that CHRIST is able to forgive. Repent therefore, and
return to HIS people. I don't want to see someone who is precious to
GOD mess up and worship the wrong one. Search the depths of your
heart. Don't give an ear to false testimonies and strivings within
yourself. Redeem yourself as a living sacrifice unto GOD MOST HIGH.
Fight as much as lies within you against the oppressor. Like the
Bible says, there is a time and place for everything. Come out of
confusion and do the work of GOD. Be prepared to suffer affliction.
I can feel the despair in everyone. Try to pull as many out of the
fire as you can. Your brother in JESUS CHRIST.
xxxxx
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My First Response:edits in maroon and in
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----- Original Message -----
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: A letter to you
xxxx, You say you have a devil. Then why should I take your advice? If
you do not know how to rule your own house, then you are in no position to
tell me what is right. You tell me you have a devil, and I know it is true,
because you have given me the devil's advice.
I have never stirred up controversies among brethren who know the truth.
The only controversies I have stirred up are against them that know not the
truth and are the enemies of truth. And there ought to be a controversy,
God has called me to earnestly contend for the faith and I have only
scratched the surface of what I intend to do in following that.
It is not me who blows minor things out of proportion. What it is, is that
wicked men take what could be minor false opinions and make them the
cornerstones of their doctrine. What I do is blow away and burn things that
ought not be. The fork and the wind and the fire are in my hand.
And what are you afraid of? If I am not of the truth then the only ones
that will hear me are those who are also not of the truth. As you said, God
alone knows who will make it. But he does know, there is no question of
that, he knows beforehand. I do what I do because I am compelled to do it,
only Satan would seek to dissuade me. So by that token, I know you speak
the truth.
Do you know how it is revealed who worships the "wrong one?" When the devil
offers you the drugs you love, and you take them, you are worshipping the
devil already. No need to wait for that great and notable day. When you
are delivered up, what will it take for you to turn from the path of
righteousness? A little dope? A little tail? A little food? If you have
run with the footmen and are weary, how will you run with horsemen? In other
words, if you cannot resist temptation in the time of peace, do not deceive
yourself saying, "when the time is come I will rise and be mighty for the
lord."
And sin is not chastisement, it is what separates you from the Lord. As you
enjoy your pleasures in this life, maybe you ought consider that you really
know nothing of me, nor of the sacrifices I have made for righteousness
sake. So long as you live in the pleasures of sin you know nothing to speak
to others of offering a living sacrifice.
You are like the women who sew pillows over the hands of the almighty. You
say, "But no!" but I say inasmuch as you seek to silence his prophets you
have sought to silence him because the prophets of God are the voice of God
in the world, so hear his word.
Emailer's First Reply:
----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 4:23 AM
Subject: Re: A letter to you
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Sorry Paul if I offended you. You don't need to come down on me so
hard. I am in the process of being delivered of my affliction. I
won't bother you any more. I just hope when the time comes you will
join with Christian brothers and sisters who will stand against the
antichrist.
By the way, I no longer do drugs and I wasn't doing them when I
wrote you that email. I repented of my sin and have moved on. I have
to say that God gave us all free will and to say that he would
create His children and put them through the test of the flesh while
knowing their fate doesn't make much sense to me. What then would be
the point? It would undermine the whole purpose of life in these
bodies. If this were the case God would have just destroyed all of
His children who fell to begin with. I see that you are of a
different opinion than me, and as a Christian brother I can envision
the day when are trivial differences won't matter and we can both
witness against the antichrist. See you later.
xxxxxxxx
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----- Original Message -----
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: A letter to you
Luke, It is not that I am offended, or
bothered, it is just that I know your perspective, I hear it all the time,
and I reject it. No, let's not all just get along (but I'll talk to
you). It isn't you, its your doctrine, I hate your doctrine, I hate it. I
do not think that minor differences separate you and I. I know you are
sincere, but so are 99 percent of people. The difference between the gospel
I believe in, and the gospel you believe in, cannot be bridged by well
meaning words of brotherly affection. The way I understand Christ and the
way you understand him is so different that we have two completely different
gods going by the same name.
Listen to what you said: "to say that he would create His children and put
them through the test of the flesh while knowing their fate doesn't make
much sense to me. What then would be the point? "
That is because you follow the wisdom of MAN.
| Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have
mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. |
| Thou wilt say
then unto me, Why doth he
yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? |
I underlined that because that is exactly what
you are saying. That it "doesn't make sense" Why does gof find fault with
people whom he is predestinating to be faulty? You are a follower of the
wisdom of MAN. It doesn't make sense to you, for one, because you probably
don't have the holy ghost.
| Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest
against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why
hast thou made me thus? |
| Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the
same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? |
You deny that God uses this power that the scriptures plainly declare he
uses. The God you are talking about is FUNDEMENTALLY different from mine.
How can you say we have the same God when my doctrine does not even make
sense to you? You don't understand my God. The way you talk about God and
what you think to be the truth is alien to me.
And I was not meaning to harp on your drug use, but my point was that
"Knowing Satan comes first," DOES NOT commend you to God, and will not save
anyone. That is not the knowledge that saves. What will destroy men in the
end-times is that which destroys them at all times, SIN.
"It would undermine the whole purpose of life in these bodies."
Your idea of what that purpose is, is warped, by false doctrine. "These
Bodies"? This is the only body you have ever known.
"If this were the case God would have just destroyed all of His children who
fell to begin with."
No, that is your wisdom and Murray's folly. This is nonsense, you are
referring to Dr. Murrays imaginary "pre-existence" doctrine. I have
carefully and thoroughly refuted that nonsense on my website in several
places. It is garbage. If you are really interested I'll give you
hyperlinks.
Sincerely,
Paul Stringini
Emailer's Second Reply:
----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: A letter to you
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I think this where we should respect each other's right to disagree
Paul. I am going to follow the doctrine of Christ as best I can, and
live as sinless as possible the best I can. Paul, know man can know
what I battle on a daily basis. I have to constantly reject satan
who keeps picking at my mind. I am also constantly inviting the Holy
Spirit to take control.
I have the faith to know that Jesus will deliver me in the appointed
time. Before we part ways, let me tell you a story. When I was back
in my hometown, and a couple and their autistic son came to look at
our house that was for sale. The child could neither speak or
communicate, except for the means of a board which had letters and
numbers on it. His mother asked if I want to talk with him via this
method. Out of nowhere and not knowing my affliction, he typed out,
"You will be delivered after 8 days of fire, God loves you very
much." I was astonished! There is no way under heaven or earth that
this child could have known this, save for God driecting his
thoughts. I have no idea what 8 days of fire means, but I know what
I felt at that time. I broke down in tears. He also told my step-mom
that she would eventually be delivered of her financial crisis she
was having at that time.
God Bless,
xxxxxxx
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My Third Response: edits in maroon and in
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----- Original Message -----
To: xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: A letter to you
So what does that really mean? What is the
point? Let's say you are delivered as the child prophesied. It still does
not really mean anything. False doctrine is as much sin as drug abuse and
as terrible bondage as demonic possession/opression (and I think you fall
into the "oppression" category). Saul was delivered from his torment by the
music of David, but it didn't save him in the end. Eight days of fire may
deliver you from your demons but will they deliver you from false doctrine?
I will pray that, when you are delivered, your eyes may be opened as well,
and you may be blessed in the truth. False doctrine is deadly poison,
because doctrine saves you, it is what you beieve in for salvation.
| Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine;
continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself,
and them that hear thee. |
| A man that is an heretic after the first and
second admonition reject; |
| Knowing that he
that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of
himself. |
Sincerely,
Paul
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