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Who are you to tell anyone they should repent.

Question/Comment:

----- Original Message -----
From: Name And Address Withheld
To: reborn@oraclesofgod.org
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:30 PM
Subject: Pastor Murray

Just wanted to say you are really judgmental. I have gotten so much closer to God through my studies with Pastor Murray and it has made my life so much better. Who are you to tell anyone they should repent. Why do you slam him so much?  You think, you are the ONE and know it all. You are probably Politically correct too. You probably color easter eggs and believe in global warming. I wouldn't donate to you . You seem to be a very hurtful person that  is feeding off of Dr Murray. Did you go to Berkley? This is my own Spiritual discernment. It is what I see in your works. I love God and his word.

Editorial Comment from Paul Stringini:  This message is very similar to many messages I receive.  They usually all contain the same hypocritical material.  They tell me that I should not be slamming Pastor Arnold Murray, but all I have done is express my opinion that his doctrines are wrong and supported that opinion by sound biblical evidence.  I suppose they call what I do "slamming" because deep in their hearts they know that the truth which I proclaim is powerful and that the victories I obtain by the truth are overwhelming.  So they see what I do as being, in effect, equivalent to a full body slam.  The word "slam" comes up, over and over. The hypocrisy comes when they try to slam me back.  I do not make ignorant and absurd remarks about Pastor Murray's doctrine and teaching, I try never to mischaracterize, because I do not want to fight a straw man.  Why fight a straw man when I know that I can beat the real thing.  Look again at the remarks above.  Who is "slamming" who here?  Who is a "very hurtful person" here?  This person says it is wrong to me to slam Pastor Murray fair and square by using the bible show how he is wrong, but the Shepherd's Chapel Students find nothing wrong in slamming me in the most degrading and unfair terms they can think of.  They do this over and over.

My  Response:edits in maroon and in ( ), as in: (this is an example of an edit)

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Stringini
To: Name And Address Withheld
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pastor Murray
Just wanted to say you are really judgmental.
 
And the pot calls the kettle black.
 
I have gotten so much closer to God through my studies with Pastor Murray and it has made my life so much better.
 
This is a typical thing people say about all kinds of groups and people, The Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Muslims, they all say the same things about their faith, so that sort of argument is not very persuasive. 
 
Moreover, I think you misplace the credit.
 
What has really made your life better is that since studying with the Shepherd's Chapel and Pastor Arnold Murray, you have begun to take the bible and your faith in Christ more seriously, that is more likely what is affecting your life.
 
I mean, what is it about the doctrine of the Kenites, or the world that was, that really makes your life better?  That is what really separates Dr. Murray from other teachers. And also, what does it really even mean to live a "better life?" Do you mean a more righteous life?  Because that is what that would mean to me.
 
Who are you to tell anyone they should repent.
 
God has called men everywhere to repent.  It is not me that says it, but God's word.  When we see sin, it is right to tell people to repent.
 
Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
 
If I believe Dr. Murray is teaching falsely and I say nothing, that would mean that I hated him in my heart.  You don't like what I do, but I mena well.  I don't expect you to understand, but maybe you can.
 
Why do you slam him so much? 
 
You will have to be more specific.  As far as I'm concerned I do not "slam" him.  I am against the things he teaches, I slam those things.  People have written me making unfounded allegations against Dr. Murray, and in every case, I refuse to publish them.
 
You think, you are the ONE and know it all.
 
That is not correct.
 
You are probably Politically correct too.
 
Strike one, if this is meant to be a display of your psychic powers, you are striking out. 
 
You probably color easter eggs and believe in global warming.
 
Foul ball, Strike two, and strike three.
 
I wouldn't donate to you .
 
But you did, and I thank you for your donation, this email that you have donated will make a fine addition to my webpage.  Another example of the fruit of Dr. Murray's labor.
 
You seem to be a very hurtful person that  is feeding off of Dr Murray.
 
Me?  hurtful?  Whom have I hurt? As far as I'm concerned I'm saving people from false teachings. Feeding? Well, most people share your sentiments on generosity, I have yet to receive a single donation for my tireless efforts against Dr. Murray's corrupt doctrine.
 
Did you go to Berkley? This is my own Spiritual discernment.
 
That is your own "Spiritual" with a capital "S?" Is that like saying it is from God, if your are right, and from you, if you are wrong?
 
I did not go to Berkley.  I discern that you have spoken from the imagination of your own heart. I went to the University of Illinois for one year.   That and a few community college credits are the sum of my higher education.  The only man who instructed me in the Bible was Dr. Murray,  I guess you didn't read that part of my page, but he was my only bible teacher, ever.
 
It is what I see in your works.
 
Poor Berkley, uneducated slobs like me remind people of Berkley graduates.  I guess you aren't so wrong after all.
 
I love God and his word.
 
Well, then you will doubtless love my free verse by verse bible studies.  Let me recommend Matthew http://oraclesofgod.org/studies/40_Matthew/Matthew.html
 
If you love the word then you ought to listen, you will hear things as you have never heard them before.
 
Sincerely,
Paul Stringini

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