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"Your Arguments Against Pastor Murray Do Not Hold Water."
Question/Comment:
----- Original Message -----From: "Name Withheld"To: <Paul Stringini>Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:44 PMSubject: Your NUTS
Your arguments against Pastor Murray do not hold water. It must be nice to be you. You seem to think you know everything, but you have shown yourself to know nothing. Why must you focus on one person for your attacks? Do you know Hebrew? Do you now Greek? Have you been asked to authenticate anything? What are your degrees that you base your knowledge on? Just curious what make you an authority to degrade another human being?
Cheers,
Name Withheld
----- Original Message -----From: "Name Withheld"To: <Paul Stringini>Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:08 PMSubject: Extorted
The clips you play of Pastor Murray are being taken out of context. If you want people to judge for themselves, then it would behoove you to play the audio in full. Some of the clips are not even Pastor Murray. Please provide the basis of your knowledge without using Pastor Murray as your kick off point. If you have a different point of view, that is fine, but I do not understand why you must prove your point by degrading another person's teachings. You can do the same as he does, start your own ministry, read verse by verse, chapter by chapter, book by book. If God sees fit, he will grow your ministry and you can teach your flock. There is no reason to grow your ministry out of degrading another, it is not biblical nor is it classy. People will never take you serious if all you do is denounce another Pastor.
Cheer,
Name Withheld
----- Original Message -----From: "Paul Stringini"To: "Name Withheld"Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:05 PMSubject: Re: Your NUTSArnold Murray claims that his "credentials" are his "ability to teach" He steadfastly refuses to disclose where he obtained his doctorate. As one of his defenders it is hypocritical for you to expect me to provide more credentials than that imposter Murray provides. I don't go around calling myself "Doctor" that is Arnold Murray's fetish.
I obtained my scriptural education at the desk of Dr. Arnold Murray. I never obtained scriptural instruction or degree from any other source. Why should you ask me for a degree? Murray does not hand out degrees, and he does not recommend any school that does. Are there schools where they teach Arnold Murray's corrupt understanding of the scriptures? What college did he go to in order to obtain his knowledge?
Where in the bible did you read that it was necessary to obtain a degree in order to have a gift from God for teaching?
Your attitude is typical of Arnold Murray's students.
You say my arguments do not hold water, Why? No reason given. You just throw out a bunch of questions which have no bearing on the central question of whether what I say is biblically sound. You have judged me purely because you do not like my conclusions. You have not heard me at all. I know this because one of the first things I say is that I was a student of Arnold Murray.
One does not need a college education to discern that Arnold Murray is an incompetent biblical scholar. He does a good job revealing that on his own. It is only required of us to check him out BEYOND the breadcrumb trail he leaves for us. I know enough about Greek to know that "exapatao," has nothing to do with sexual seduction, a point on which Arnold Murray exploits the ignorance of his audience (and his own ignorance perhaps) See my page on the subject of "Expottio". Arnold Murray is a flatterer who utilizes confidence tactics in order to wrongfully persuade people of positions which are not sound biblically.
Sincerely,
Paul Stringini
Former Shepherd's Chapel Student----- Original Message -----From: "Paul Stringini"To: "Name Withheld"
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:13 PMSubject: Re: ExtortedWhy do I pick on him? Because he picked on me. He stuck his face into my Television screen when I was young and ignorant and persuaded me to study with him. So now it has come back to bite him. If he wants to preach without danger of opposition, then he should keep his vile teachings to himself there in Arkansas.
I look at Arnold Murray as you might look at a child molester. It may not be classy to tell the neighbors that an unrepentant child molester lives next door, but it sure is the responsible thing to do.
Every single one of those clips is certainly Arnold Murray, unless when I bought those tapes he falsely put his name on another man's work! You can take that up with him!
I gave all context necessary, all I'm willing to give. If you want to hear more then contact them and get the tapes yourself, they have archives, you know?
He has never denied that he predicted what he did back in 1980 and he has never denied teaching that the race we call Jews are all Kenites.----- Original Message -----From: "Paul Stringini"To: "Name Withheld"Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:16 PMSubject: Re: Extorted"Please provide the basis of your knowledge without using Pastor Murray as your kick off point. "
You chose to look at my webpage in that way, you were looking for "Arnold Murray" material. Do something intelligent.
Go to my webpage THE MAIN PAGE the "kick off" point. http://oraclesofgod.org/
Now find your way to the Shepherd's Chapel content. I do not "kick off" with Arnold Murray.
----- Original Message -----From: Name WithheldTo: Paul StringiniSent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:57 AMSubject: Re: Your NUTSWhere did Cain's wife come from? Where did her tribe originate from?
how do you explain
John 3:12: Not as Cain, [who] was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
John 8:44: Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar and the FATHER of it.
Why is Cain not listed in Adam's genealogy?
Do you think Eve ate an Apple or a piece of fruit? Why were they ashamed of being naked?
Who did Cain build the city for?exapataó: to seduce wholly, deceiveOriginal Word: ἐξαπατάωHave you read the Dead Sea Scrolls? They are quite amazing and they exbound on the birth of Cain and who's son he is. So are you saying those people are misguided as well? Remember, not everything that was written was included in The Bible, and it has been changed and mistranslated on instances.Do you believe in the Rapture?Just curious what your thoughts are.
----- Original Message -----From: "Name Withheld"
To: "Paul Stringini"Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:23 AMSubject: Re: Your NUTS
http://study.interlinearbible.org/genesis/2.htm
If you look at 6 (adam, man) and then look at 9 (Adam, The Man) you will see they share the same Strong's number, BUT they are different because Genesis 9 is speaking of THE MAN, meaning it is a different creation from that in Genesis 6. The Hebrew symbols are different for a reason.----- Original Message -----Your funny, you say you have been teaching the word of God for twenty years, yet you also state that you became a student of Shepherd's Chapel in 1993. So you were a brand new student teaching the word of God?From: "Name Withheld"To: "Paul Stringini"Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:49 AMSubject: Re: Extorted
Your main page puts down Shepherd's Chapel so I didn't have to go far to find it. Second, I see you ask for donations on your front page, do you use the funds to further the word of God or do you use them to live off (pay your personal bills)? If so, how do you use the funds to further the word of God? If you have been teaching for twenty years, it would seem your ministry would be huge and your website would be a bit more professional. I am not saying that you should not spread the word of God, but to condemn another Pastor to make your point is pretty disgusting. You should stand on your own two feet and stand by the word of God alone. So basically you studied under Pastor Murray for three years and have been preaching against him for 17 years? lololol Maybe it's time to move beyond denouncing him and stick to what you believe to be the true word of God.
May God Bless you always, and may you stop Judging other Pastors so that you may stopped being Judged, GOD is the only judge! Discernment does not include degrading another person publicly. What you are doing is judging another person, you should leave that up to God. If you don't want people attacking you regarding Shepherd's Chapel, then you should stop attacking Shepherd's Chapel. If God knows Pastor Murray is preaching HIS word wrong, then God will deal with him, it is not up to you to do so. God has blessed Pastor Murray in many ways, and since I have studied with him (8 years now), I have been incredibly blessed. When I have questions that I don't understand, I pray to God and ask him for the answer to my question, and within a day or two my question is answered through Pastor Murray. God has blessed me in so many ways I can't even begin to count the ways, so if I am being mislead, then God will deal with me as well. I don't feel I am being mislead because God answers my prayers more times than I can count, but if I am, he alone will judge me, not someone like you who has a website condemning people like me. I hope you pray to God for the guidance of how you should spread HIS word, I'm willing to be he wouldn't want you speaking out against any one person except for Satin and the Antichrist.
Cheers
----- Original Message -----From: Name WithheldTo: Paul StringiniSent: Friday, July 19, 2013 2:05 AMSubject: Re: ExtortedPS, not to mention, what kind of person who claims to be a teacher of God's word cut's down another person who happens to upset them? I have never known a preacher or pastor tell me to do something intelligent. For that fact alone, I could never take you serious. Preachers are supposed to be loving and kind, that is not what I find on your website or your emails. Great example of what type of person I don't want to teach me the word of God.
Your very Doctrine is a swipe against Shepherd's Chapel. The Doctrine of God is much more than what yours is…. Meaning of Doctrine: a particular principle, position, or policy taught or advocated, as of a religion or government:
So basically your Doctrine is to preach against Shepherd's Chapel……. Alrighty then:)
You say that Satan tempted Eve with knowledge, what did he tell her that caused both she and Adam to be aware of their nakedness and to be kicked out of The Garden of Eden? I really am interested in hearing what you have to say on this matter. I would like to know what knowledge he told Eve that caused her to feel the pain of child birth and for Adam to know the pain of working in the field. What knowledge did he tell her that caused Cain to kill his brother and not have him listed in Adam's genealogy. That must have been a long conversation, because even Jesus said that Cain was of the Serpent, so I am just curious what Satin told Eve…..
My Second Response:
----- Original Message -----From: Paul StringiniTo: Name WithheldSent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:06 PMSubject: Re: Your NUTSAh, this is more like it. These are questions. I have already answered most of these questions, but since you seem addicted to having your answers handed to you on a silver platter rather than through studying for yourself, I will go into them again briefly for you, one by one.Where did Cain's wife come from? Where did her tribe originate from?Do you REALLY know the answer to either of those questions? Where does your answer come from? From the mind of a man.My answer comes from the bible, Since Eve was so named because she was the mother of all living.Genesis 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.And of course we know that all mankind arises from a single bloodline.Acts 17:26 And hath made of one all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;All the nations arise after the flood they are not special creations.Genesis 10:32 These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood.Accordingly Cain Must have married a sister, we know that he had many siblingsGenesis 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:Which brings us logically to this questionWhy is Cain not listed in Adam's genealogy?Who said he was not? He most certainly is. Adam is in Cain's genealogy (technically speaking, Adam has no genealogy, he was created from dust)1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain,That is the standard way in which the bible denotes who is father to who, is it not? It does not say "The Devil knew Eve and she conceived, no, it says ADAM, and you ought to beware of people that start telling you bible is not true!17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch:Same formula. Exactly.The reason Cain is not in the genealogy of chapter 5 is because he was not in the genealogy of NOAH. No, Cain does not appear in that genealogy by name, but why would he? He was not a progenitor of Noah, and it is silly to ask why Cain is not included in a genealogy that does not include MOST of Adam's children. (It is like asking why Saul is not in the Genealogy of Christ.)Genesis 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:Why are the rest of Adam's kids not listed? Why? Because they are not in the line of Noah. Period.Cain is not in Noah's genealogy, but ADAM is in Cain's genealogy in chapter 4. Very simple. Study for yourself. Stop following bread crumbs left to deceive you.Do you think Eve ate an Apple or a piece of fruit?A piece of fruit. Can you blame me? That is the distinct impression one gets when reading genesis...Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.It sounds like a real tree to me!Genesis 2:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.What in that, exactly leads you to believe that sex was involved? Is this all a lie? The tree was not a tree? it did not look good for food? They did not eat any fruit?Who has perverted your mind from that which is WRITTEN?Why were they ashamed of being naked?Strip naked in public and tell me yourself? Are you ashamed of walking down main street naked because you just had sex with the devil? No, you don't need to have sex with the devil to be ashamed of being naked.According to the bible. When they ate the fruit that granted knowledge of good and evil, they suddenly saw something shameful in their nakedness.7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked;Here is something for you to think about.God forbade them in the following manner:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
If they were too innocent to know they were naked, how would they know from this that it was also wrong to have sex with the devil? If they had sex with the devil, then there was no sin, because God gave no commandments concerning sex with the devil. God said, thou shalt not eat, they ate and they suffered the consequences.The bible teaches that the sin in the garden was disobedience to God, not sex with Satan. God gave them a simple command and they could not keep it.exapataó: to seduce wholly, deceiveOriginal Word: ἐξαπατάωThe word has NOTHING to do with SEXUAL seduction. READ THE PROOF HERE Arnold Murray is preying on your ignorance, and counting on you to presume that "seduction" means "sexual seduction" but that word is never used that way in scripture. The root apatao means to cheat, deceive or delude and the prefix ex means out. The word means to out-cheat, much like we would use outmaneuver or outlast, it is a strengthened form of deceive but has not the least sexually suggestive meaning. What you are doing is falling prey to an accident of modern English. In modern English we have come to see the word "seduce" as indicating SEXUAL seduction specifically, but that is not the way it was used in Greek in that passage in 2 Cor.Very simple. One only need study for oneself.Who did Cain build the city for?For his family? We can only surmise. Look, the bible gives us certain facts, but you seem to be interested in inserting alien ideas into the scriptures. There is a lot of time in Adam and Cain's lifetime that is not accounted for. Do you suppose he walked away from the murder of Abel and two weeks later built a city? No wonder you are confused. This city may have been built long after we have centuries to work with. Eve was the mother of all living...or not? All the nations come of one... or not? You can let the bible instruct you, or you can be the one instructing the bible, like Murray does.how do you explain
John 3:12: Not as Cain, [who] was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
John 8:44: Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar and the FATHER of it.One of my favorite passages to explain. You said I need to take Arnold Murray in context. Well, I'm telling you to take the bible in context.1John3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.Al ot of people today will tell you that sin does not matter, but when you do evil, that is what makes you evil. When you do righteousness that is what makes you righteous. John is putting it in the simplest terms.1John3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.Of the devil? "Ye are of your father the devil," why? Because of lineage? No, because of deeds/works!1John3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.To truly be born of God is to forbear to sin. I do not claim to be sinless, but I do acknowledge that God has given us his Spirit that we might overcome sin and walk as he walked, yes even in this present world.Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;In the parable of the tares, it was suggested that some wheat might be torn up while the field was ripening if they attempted to remove the tares, that is because we have not attained the righteousness of the children of God...Here is how you can tell who the children of the devil are:1John3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
If the Kenites are greater sinners because their father is the devil, then what is your excuse? You have no excuse.God judges by deeds not by lineage. 1 John 3 specifically tells us how to tell the children of God from the children of the devil, so before you go pointing fingers at one group you had better take a long look at your own behavior!11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
Why did Cain slay Abel? Because he was the carnal seed of Satan? No, it was jealousy. Clearly. Cain slew Abel because his WORKS were evil and his brother's righteous. That is what the bible says. Arnold Murray seems to suggest that Cain was a murderer because he inherited this characteristic from the devil.John 8:44: Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar and the FATHER of it.John 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.Jesus said "I know that you are Abraham's seed." These men were the seed of Abraham in the flesh. They were his carnal seed. But Christ is saying that because they did not do the works of Abraham they were the children of the devil. Not physically. They are the children of the devil spiritually because of their works.John 8:39 ... If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
When Christ says that they are the children of the devil he clearly means this in a spiritual sense. "I know that you are Abraham's seed" I know that you are carnally descended from Abraham, but if you were TRULY his children, according to the spirit you would do the works of Abraham,This verse is given in similar spirit.Romans 9:8 They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.Christ was the promised messiah, by rejecting him and wishing to slay him, they had marked themselves as children of the devil. This is all spiritual, the devil does not have a carnal seed-line. Anyone who says otherwise is asking you to give heed to fables and vain imaginations which and has departed from the truth. Christ himself acknowledged in verse 37 that they were Abraham's seed. He acknowledged their seed descent but denied they were his children based on their works.Do you believe in the Rapture?No. This stuff is all over my website.Have you read the Dead Sea Scrolls?
I have "read" many of them and I have read a few books on them. Many of the "dead sea scrolls" are copies of books of the bible, and these copies do not differ significantly from the bible as we possess it today.
They are quite amazing and they exbound on the birth of Cain and who's son he is.
Jewish fablesSo are you saying those people are misguided as well?Absolutely, Yes. I'm saying that the idea that Cain was the son of the Devil, literally, is one of those "Jewish fables" Paul warned us not to give heed to. The serpent seed doctrine comes from Jewish mysticism, it is a JEWISH FABLE and ought to be rejected as unChristian.Remember, not everything that was written was included in The Bible, and it has been changed and mistranslated on instances.
Not everything that was written BELONGS in the bible. I have read many of the books that were excluded from the bible and the main reason they were excluded was that they were known to be fraudulent when they "magically" appeared centuries after the death of the Apostles whose names some forgers placed on their forgery. I have spent 20 years studying the bible beginning with Arnold Murray as my teacher, and moving onward on my own, and I have found that the bible is mostly translated very clearly and is easy to understand if we submit ourselves to the simple teachings contained in it. Very little has been changed. And almost everything that has been changed can be traced. For the overwhelming majority, the most important doctrines are as clear as a bell and are untouched.You say that Satan tempted Eve with knowledge, what did he tell her that caused both she and Adam to be aware of their nakedness and to be kicked out of The Garden of Eden? I really am interested in hearing what you have to say on this matter.The bible is very clear, it says their eyes were opened and the knew that they were naked. Satan did not tell them anything. They told themselves, they suddenly knew shame. Because it is shameful to be naked. "How did you come hither not having a wedding garment?" No one had to tell them this. They knew because that is what the FRUIT did to them, read the book. You seem to fail to grasp what the fruit had power to do. The fruit had the power to bestow the knowledge of right and wrong. The bible gives the only explanation I require, if you want to seek answers from other sources, that is your business.
----- Original Message -----From: Name WithheldTo: Paul StringiniSent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:58 PMSubject: Re: Your NUTSYou know what, I read your first sentence and I stopped. Your not a teacher of God's word, otherwise you would not be so condescending. I read through your website and did not see the answers to my questions therefor I thought I would ask you. A man of GOD would not be so rude to someone that is earnestly asking questions from someone with a different point of view. Thank you for your time anyway.
----- Original Message -----From: Paul StringiniTo: Name WithheldSent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:09 PMSubject: Re: Your NUTS
Earnestly? Your message is titled "Your nuts" How earnest do you think that makes you appear? (not to mention all your other writing) There is no way I can accept your assertions that you were honestly looking for a second opinion. "Your Nuts" Tells me you think I'm crazy, or at the very least that you do not respect me, and now you want me to believe that you were sincerely looking to me for a second opinion from me? You are a liar and you know it. I suppose you think I'm stupid.That is typical behavior for a Shepherd's Chapel student, they think nothing of lying, they consider that "covert activity." They cannot actually defend the doctrines of Arnold Murray in the face of the hard facts. So they usually start crying about me not being sweet and sugary with them as they please.You are a hypocrite. You want me to be all sugary with you but you, as one of GOD'S ELECT did not exhibit any such behavior towards me but rather insulted me with your very first words to me! You like to dish it out, but you can't take it. I'm no hypocrite because I don't see anything wrong with speaking truths which you would rather not hear.You are just trying to get out of the discussion because you know I will tear your false doctrines to pieces and trample them under my feet. As I always do. As God has given me to do.The content of your many messages made it abundantly clear that you already think you have all the answers. The presumptive way you interrogate me and the assumptions behind many of your questions and statements make it clear to me that no only are you a poor bible student, you have adopted much of Murray's extra-biblical philosophy and made it yours. These are his version of the Pharisees " traditions of men" They come out all over the place in your writing and I'm sorry for you... but it would take months to untangle this web and you are not cooperative.The pastor you adore is a hypocrite who has made his fame by criticizing people who believe the rapture, and has built his ministry by contradicting the plain meaning of scripture in Genesis and many other places. He does all the things you have been criticizing me for. He has built his ministry by objecting to what other people teach. Like Luther and the Catholics, Like Jesus and the Pharisees, etc. You don't know what you are talking about.I was going to sit down and answer your other questions but, I may reserve that work for my website later since you have decided to flee and run away.Why am I not rolling in the dough like Arnold Murray? Because I don't manipulate people they way he does. I don't flatter them. I don't beg for money the way he does every single day "please help us keep bringing this broadcast to you" sounds like begging to me. He is a manipulative con-man, he says one thing and does another. I don't measure my success by the amount of money I take from people like Arnold Murray and the rest of the TV preacher con-men do.Sincerely,Paul
----- Original Message -----From: name WithheldTo: Paul StringiniSent: Monday, July 22, 2013 5:07 PMSubject: Re: Your NUTSI'm not the one preaching the word of God, that would be you. Good luck with your ministry. I'm not the one, in public, attacking another person, therefor you should expect what you receive. It would seem to me that you would want to win people with your words, not insult them. You insult MILLIONS with your website, you should be understanding towards people when they approach you if your intentions are to have them see the truth as YOU see it. Pastor Murray does not attack you, maybe his students, like myself do because we have learned A LOT from him. You should stand strong in your words and leave Pastor Murray out of it. Attacking others will NEVER win the heart of the people you say you want to save. God is watching you very close because you have put yourself in the position of teaching others, how do you think he feels about how you attack his children, esp. those you seem to think have been mislead. If you put you in a position to SAVE us from teachings that are mislead, then how do you explain to HIM that you have insulted them and pushed them closer to those mislead truths? GOD is GREAT and has answered my prayers and questions MANY times, therefor I do not believe I am being mislead by Pastor Murray, but feel he has helped me draw closer to HIM through HIS word. Obviously your not so concerned to save others from being mislead, just trying to save face in human terms, which is the opposite of what I would think GOD would want of one of HIS teachers. I am not asking you to be sugary sweet, but you can win more people by just sticking to the facts of GOD'S word, even if they are insulted by what you have on the internet. Give them the right to feel angry by your posts but lead them with God's word, not drive them away with insults. Jesus spoke the truth, but never insulted people's integrity and those people were being mislead for real. Just something to think about. No need to reply to this email because I am honestly not reading past the first sentence.
----- Original Message -----From: Paul StringiniTo: Name WithheldSent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:47 PMSubject: Re: Your NUTSI don't have any scruples about calling a spade a spade. Especially when you come at me swinging like you did. I make no apologies for what I said. The shoe fits and your childish reaction is all the proof required. Everything I said was true and justified and I stand by my words.As a man of God, I say that you are the type that likes to have their doctrine handed to them on a silver platter. I'm not the first man of God to say something like that to an ENEMY. That is how you love enemies, Christ-style.You are not interested in truly investigating the truth, if you were you would not take offense so easily. You grabbed the opportunity to be offended because that is the best you can do. God is not with you and therefore you cannot stand against my skillful handling of the word of God. None of Murray's Election can, they are the election of flatteries, but are unskillful in the word of God.If I came up a Baptist, I would be talking about them. Paul preached against Judaism, I preach against Murray. I am not familiar with the doctrine of other false churches. If I was I would probably go into detail against them. Pastor Murray is not like other Churches, he is more of a cult of personality (and you know this is true if you ever watch Dennis Murray preach) He makes it a one man show. But honestly, It is not a man that I oppose, it is the doctrine. I do not oppose one doctrine but many false doctrines, as Murray himself also does.I'm not reading latest your stuff much either, but I do intend to reply in full on my website to all your accusations and vain jangling.
----- Original Message -----From: Name WithheldTo: Paul StringiniSent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:08 AMSubject: Re: Your NUTS
I DO NOT give you permission to use this private discussion as part of your website. Your website does not offer an open forum for discussion, therefor I do NOT allow you to use my emails to further your agenda. This is written notice not to contact me again or use any part of these email correspondence (ALL) on your website.
----- Original Message -----From: Paul StringiniTo: Name WithheldSent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:42 AMSubject: Re: Your NUTSOh! Did I say I needed your permission? I've done plenty of research on this issue. I don't need your permission. As you know, I publish emails on my site frequently. You cannot write me a letter and then demand that I keep the contents private, not legally anyway. Personal correspondence such as this is not protected under copyright law. There have been several cases in that regard, you might enjoy researching them. The subject being discussed here is not a private one. Whether or not to use the contents of our discussion on my website is purely at my discretion.I do not usually use emails when someone specifically objects. This is only a civility though. I am in no way obligated to respect your wishes. I reserve the right to use the contents of our conversation on my website, and I'm somewhat inclined to do so. If you don't like that, too bad. I would also remove all private information before anything goes on my website.Besides, I would think that you would actually DEMAND that I post this correspondence on my website. After all, according to you, this writing exposes me as "condescending." So one would think that you would WANT the world to see me behaving in such a perfectly awful way towards someone so innocently seeking the truth such as yourself.Sincerely,Paul Stringini
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