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One of Arnold Murray's Greatest
Deceptions - Unlike most other (TV) preachers he doesn't beg for money.
Question/Comment:
----- Original Message -----
From: Name Withheld
To: Paul Stringini
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:40 AM
Subject: Thank you for your insight
I agree that I think Dr. Murray is a good man. I
need to thank him for bringing me back to the Lord. Unlike most
other (TV) preachers he doesn't beg for money. I admit they do push
their tapes and books. From what I see they are reasonable in price.
I am disabled and was always worried about not being able to attend
church. I feel better knowing that when I watch Shepherd's Chapel
that I am in church. I understand what you are doing and i
appreciate your feelings about his teachings. I have been to
Christian, Baptist, Pentecostal, and "community churches" and always
believed in some of their teachings and disagreed with others. I
think if you don't lose sight of the real reason of Christianity you
will be saved. I feel Dr. Murray has put all of his personal beliefs
together and started a church. If I did the same mine would be a
little different. If not for the Protestant movement we would all be
forced to here the same teachings. I don't believe in tongues. I
don't care if I'm raptured or go to heaven later as long as I go. I
love people as individuals not as races. I think all non Christians
will go to hell. I believe in Baptism, but also the man next to
Jesus on the cross also went to heaven without being baptised. I do
believe in spiritual discernment. I do believe in the trinity. I
don't think people need to worry about some of the "little" things
that seperate the different churches or denominations. I can look
through the scriptures and quote verses to back up my views. I'm
happy you found a church that you can attend that you agree with. We
Christians sometimes argue or disagree with each other instead of
focusing on our real enemy Satan. I wish all churches would get away
from political correctness and teach against real evils in the
world. For example: Homosexuality, Islam, Abortion, Government
corruption, Public school indoctrination, sensitivity and diversity
training, illegal immigration and the national debt due to
soacialism and communist views. I will continue to study with
Shepherd's Chapel with Dennis and Arnold Murray. If I don't totally
agree with one of their views I will "put it on the shelf and leave
it there". If you watch all the TV preachers I think they are the
best along with Charles Stanley. If you want to listen to a real
confusing and untruths listen to John Hagee, Jimmy Swaggart, Paul
and Jan Crouch, Paula White and all charismatic preachers. I can't
understand all the screaming and jumping and money begging. I guess
that's why I like the nice calm chapter by chapter and verse by
verse and the Grandfatherly Charles Stanley. I don't judge them I
just don't watch them. God Bless and I think we will both meet in
Heaven. Name Withheld from Indiana |
My First Response:
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Stringini
To: Name Withheld
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Thank you for your insight
Name Withheld,
I was going over my email and found your
letter. I couldn't determine if I had answered it or not. I get lots
of messages and I have got a big family and things get by me, so I
apologize. I didn't really want to argue with you, but I hope you will
think about this one point. I don't know how Arnold Murray defines
"begging," but his followers who write me say that I am begging for
money because I have a donate button on my web pages. In that case,
Arnold Murray is a hypocrite. He asks for money every single
broadcast. "We are brought to you by your tithes and offerings, If we
have helped you, Please Help us keep bringing this broadcast to you."
He asks for donations for the broadcast, for books, and for CD's. The
guy asks for money, period. He uses reverse psychology on people by
saying "I never beg for money," then he smiles and turns and says
"please help us," Also in his messages he manages to actually threaten
people to donate, "we prune early!" (If you know what I'm talking
about). He threatens his followers by saying that if the people who
live in a particular Television market do not cover the costs of the
broadcast the Chapel will pull the broadcast. That is not begging, that
is more like extortion, of course, it only works if you care about the
broadcast, so in that way, he is abusive and cruel to those who feel
they need him most. Arnold Murray is not exactly a beggar, he is more
like a street thug and a con-man. I always wanted to like Charles
Stanley (who does not beg either so far as I recall), but I have not
heard him in years, I have trouble listening to people on the radio and
TV, I prefer direct contact, person to person.
The Lord Bless you and keep you,
Sincerely,
Paul Stringini
Comment: I really don't know much about Stanley.
He is another big pastor of a big church. He used to remind me of
Fred Rogers, I think that is why I carry with me a favorable impression of him.
I read the Wikipedia article on Stanley and found it interesting that Moody
radio pulled his broadcast after his divorce. These people obviously have
no idea of the spirit of what Jesus said about divorce. I don't think
Stanley has a clue either.
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