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Did You Know Pastor Arnold Murray Was the Greatest Preacher Alive?

Question/Comment: 

----- Original Message -----
From: Name Withheld
To: Paul Stringini
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:06 PM
Subject: (no subject)
Did you know Pastor Arnold Murray was the greatest preacher alive I learned so much from this man and  was the greatest teacher alive I learned so much from his channel and now he is silenced I only hope Dennis carry on the truth 

My First Response:

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Stringini
To: Name Withheld
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)
I was married in front of Pastor Murray's desk, so I did like him a lot at one time.  I don't think Dennis is a gifted broadcaster, not in the least.  It will be interesting to see what they do.  If they are smart, they will just keep playing Arnold's old programs. If they replace all Arnold's stuff with Dennis's teaching then it will cause the Shepherd's Chapel to decline at least as far as the number of people who will become students.  I do not consider Arnold Murray a preacher.  He was a teacher, and a false teacher at that.  Arnold Murray was the Shepherd's Chapel, so they will have to keep his ghost on the air to stay alive.  I wonder how much of his teaching is actually preserved.  I know that he used to like to replace the old teachings when he did new versions. 
Sincerely,
Paul Stringini

Emailer's First Reply:

----- Original Message -----
From: Name Withheld
To: Paul Stringini
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)
WHAT IS FALSE ABOUT THE MAN I FIND NOTHINGONSIDER HIM A PASTER PROBALY THE BEST ONE I EVER SEEN EXCEPT FOR JIMMY SWAGGART IN THE 80S 
 

My Second Response:

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Stringini
To: Name Withheld
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Well, you wrote me about Arnold Murray so I assume you saw my website.  I go into great detail about how he teaches all kinds of false doctrines.  The Carnal Serpent Seed doctrine, the Election By Standing Against Satan in the World that Was doctrine,  False Prophecies, etc. I wrote extensively of this on my website.  http://oraclesofgod.org/shepherds_chapel.htm You've got 80's Jimmy Swaggart and Arnold Murray in the same camp, those two are about as different as you could ask. Thanks for writing.
 
Sincerely,
Paul Stringini 

Emailer's Second Reply:

----- Original Message -----
From: Name Withheld
To: Paul Stringini
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: (no subject)
yes i know they are i more on the murray due to the swaggart rapture which i dont believe in murray quotes scripture verse by verse on the eve and serpent how do u think the cainiites got here  i just like swaggaert crusades he got the holy spirit kindy like murray on steroids
why do you put down murray  he was great teacher/preacher .why did you pull away from him what happened truthly
 

My Third Response:

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Stringini
To: Name Withheld
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Because I disagree.  The Kenites or sons of Cain are not descended from the Cain of Genesis 4 any more than the Enoch who was of Cain is the same as the Enoch who was of Seth.  Murray even points out that the same names appear in both genealogies. The Kenites of the Old Testament are not related to Cain and the Jews of the New Testament were not Kenites either.  Jesus himself testified that they were Abraham's seed. 
 
Eve did not have sex with the serpent. She was deceived, when Arnold Says "wholly seduced" he is lying to you. Here is the proof  http://oraclesofgod.org/shepherds_chapel/exapatao.htm.  If you really want to know why that is true you should look on that link I gave you.  If you have questions about anything you read there, I'd be very happy to answer them, but we have to start somewhere.
 
Sincerely,
Paul Stringini

Emailer's Third Reply:

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From: Name Withheld
To: Paul Stringini
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: (no subject)
I believe Arnold was a saint and your texts just distort his teaching you have not followed scripture on the Cain his descendents were Kenites .why sir are you selling Arnold's free CD's and why do you not state the facts your scriptures quotes are fake in other words what you say are that Arnold says are not the truth you have took his teachings out of contexts you sir take a word in the scriptures and want it to have the same meaning

You need to do it like the pastor verse n chapter I would disagree with o everything you said about Cain go talk to god and ask forgiveness for criticizing a saint like Arnold

My Fourth Response:

 
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Stringini
To: Name Withheld
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Hi, Sorry I didn't get back to you right away, but I had surgery on the 20th and have been recovering (Sinus surgery, no big deal). 
 
your texts just distort his teaching
 
That is not true.  I studied with Arnold Murray in the early 90's.  I was a devoted student.  I am intimately familiar with his teachings.  If anything I say about what he teaches seems distorted my first thought would be that you have not studied with him very carefully.  I have been listening to his tapes again since the beginning of this year, and if anything, I have found that I am probably too generous in the things I say about his teachings. 
 
You do not mention anything specific.  I have taken correction from good Chapel students in the past.  I had forgotten precisely how Arnold Murray teaches "the Unpardonable sin"  and they set me straight on that and I publicly admitted my fault in the matter.  I have no desire to distort anything Arnold Murray taught.  If there is something specific in which you feel that I have distorted anything he says, I would like to know about it because I would not want to wrongfully blacken a man's reputation.
 
you have not followed scripture on the Cain his descendents were kenites .
 
There is no scripture connecting the Cain of Genesis 4 hereditarily with the Kenites of later scriptures.  The only connection is that the name is the same "Cain" and "Cainites."(Kenites) But names in the bible are often repeated.  A person named Enoch appears in the Genealogy of Cain and in the Genealogy of Seth.  (And Adam is in Cain's Genealogy)  So you are not really making a biblical point here.
 
why sir are you selling arnolds free cd's
 
I have no idea what you are talking about.  I don't sell anything on my website, least of all Arnold Murray's CD's.  And, by the way,  Arnold does not have "Free CD's"  he has ONE free CD:  The Mark of the Beast.  That is the only free CD he offers. 
 
and why do you not state the facts your scriptures quotes are fake
 
Fake scripture quotes?  That is ridiculous.  Why don't you look them up in your bible?  I never fake any quotes.  This is absurd.
 
in other words what you say are that arnold says are not the truth
 
Those are not fake either.  They are word for word and the audio clips are right there so you can check him out for yourself.
 
I don't take anything he says out of context.  Maybe you need to listen to what the guys is actually saying.  If you want to listen to the complete teaching I can give it to you, there is no charge or anything.  If you don't believe me you can listen for yourself.  Just please be clear and tell me exactly where you think I have taken him out of context.  Copy and paste the part of my website into an email.  I will send you his full teaching, and you can tell me where I got lost.
 
you have took his teachings out of contexts
 
Not true.
 
you sir take a word in the scriptures and want it to have the same meaning
 
Well, I think you might be talking about exapatao.  On SEVERAL occasions,  Arnold has said that word has "one, and ONLY one meaning,"  Nearly every time he talks about it as a matter of fact.  He says it on the Mark of the beast tape I have, He says it on the "Kenites" tape I have.  He says it other times, over and over.  He is the one who said it has "only one meaning."  And he is right, it means to DECEIVE, every single time it means that.  It absolutely never means "to sexually seduce."  Arnold Murray was a liar.  Maybe ignorantly, but a teller of lies, absolutely.
 
you need to do it like the pastor verse n chapter
 
I do. I have hundres of hours of line by line bible studies.  I don't really get in to fantasy and perverse imaginations of men, so you won't really hear anything about sex with Satan and all that, but some people find my bible studies very helpful.
 
 
i would disagree with o everything you said about Cain
 
Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
 
go talk to god and ask forgivness for criticizing a saint like Arnold
No.
 
Sincerely,
Paul Stringini
 

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