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Question/Comment: 

----- Original Message -----
From: Name Withheld
To: Paul Stringini
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 3:13 PM
Subject: Books of the bible
Hi
  My name is Name Withheld I live in Location Withheld and I'm not a scholar, but just purely a man at the same level of acknowledgement of all the apostle of Christ. Yes the original text of the books Of Moses are what is written by Moses but was inspired by the father thru him. Moses would Not have known about Adam or eve if it wasn't from the father. For if you remember Moses at that Time in his child hood was an Egyptian and raised by Egypt through the pharaoh. Pharaoh Knew he was not his son but his sister son but yet not knowing that Moses was a Jew till a later Date. Moses had passion for all people be known that they are a Jew or an Egyptian he loved all.
For the one passion he had when a Egyptian was beating on a Jew and of course Moses killed that man with of course with remorse for he did not mean to do that. But the pharaoh knew in his heart how much he loved Moses like he loved his own son, but due to the laws of Egypt that man must die according to pharaoh law. But of course he could not do it or let anyone to smite their hand against him. So he bought him forth to a place where he would not die by his own hands but by the hands of the harsh vast desert and only allowed 1 day of water and bread. So Moses knew of his demise and set forth to journey of the unknown journey and with his thinking he was going to die for he knew he deserved what ever death was due to him in his punishment. but he did not know that the father was by his side to keep him and help him with every strife that Moses was going to go thru till he found his way with the father. God knew his heart even when he killed that Egyptian, his heart was not in hate but of passion. Now that I had my say about who I think the father is and who Moses is to you if you agree what i had said about moses if any of that is true or not true who moses is in the book.my understanding all books of any bible was written from the Greek version of the five Books of Moses if that is true or not true, cuz no matter what book is written they are all inspired through our father( the unknown God) for no one has seen the face of our father except Jesus or lord and savior has seen and known him.

So my inquiries are with pastor Arnold Murray, he has read almost every book to study in gods words, be it is in Hebrew or in English. No one are a false or misleading prophet we are all gods children whether we read it right or wrong cuz god can read our hearts on who we are. if it is passion or deceit. Through out the book of our father, all who lived before and live today do not read the words and Dr Arnold Murray is reading the words of the books no matter what book he is reading they all are inspired through the living word. Christ also said if any man judges another and others heard from you about that man causing you to make others stray from the word, Christ said judgement on that man will be double fold for no one is to judge no other man, for it is not your judgement but the father judges that man not you. All he ask is you have passion for any man whether they are you neighbor or your enemy. but greater to love your enemy more then your neighbor cuz you will always have your neighbor and not your enemy. So within my heart all I can pass on to you is love everyone and stop the judging, for we are not the judge. We discuss gods words with love, humility and joy with our savior Jesus Christ through the father. I hope you understand where I am coming from through my letter to you, but was written by me inspired from the father. For god the father works thru men. Amen. 
Sincerely yours.  Name Withheld

My First Response:

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Stringini
To: Name Withheld
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Books of the bible

Hi Name Withheld,  Thank you for taking the time to write.  I appreciate the sincere spirit in which this was written.
 
I do not much like to speculate about things in the bible beyond what is written in the bible or what may be reasonably inferred from what is written there.
 
"No one are a false or misleading prophet we are all gods children whether we read it right or wrong cuz god can read our hearts on who we are.if it is passion or deceit. "
 
The fact that we can not read hearts does not mean that God does not want us to use discernment.  Christ himself warned of false prophets and told us to beware of them.  The Apostle Paul told us to mark people who went contrary to the doctrine of Christ (Romans 16:17)  This is elementary and taught throughout the bible.
 
We are not all God's Children, in every sense of the word unless we start taking things out of context.
 
1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God,
 
There are children of God and Children of the devil.  Not all people are children of God.
 
Faith in Christ makes us God's children by adoption.
 
1John 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 
 
There are many false Christ's gone out into the world, faith in a false Christ will not save us, and Arnold Murray does not preach the same Christ as I do.  So we cannot both be Children of God.
 
Doctrine is important, that is why Jesus said to beware of the doctrine of the scribes and Pharisees.
 
Use your Strong's concordance to look up the word "doctrine" and read all that the bible says about how important it is.
 
"Through out the book of our father,all who lived before and live today do not read the words and Dr Arnold Murray is reading the words of the books no matter what book he is reading they all are inspired through the living word. "
 
By His commentary he corrupts the word of God.  Reading it is not good enough, unless you add nothing to it.  Arnold Murray adds many false teachings to his exposition of the word.
 
I also read the words in my free bible studies.  http://oraclesofgod.org/studies/index.htm
 
I used to be a student of Murray and I deny your basic premise.  All who listen to Murray are not getting into the word.  Many are getting into his imaginations, fables, genealogies, times, days, months, years, and other things which add nothing to the Gospel of Christ but rather leaven their minds with foolish and unlearned doctrines of devils and commandments of men.
 
"Christ also said if any man judges another and others heard from you about that man causing you to make others stray from the word, "
 
Nonsense, that is a poor application of what Christ taught.   I do not judge anything.  For one, I do not judge Arnold Murray. The teachings that come out of his mouth are already judged by the word of God.  I cannot look into Arnold Murray's mind and see what his motives are.  I  do never judge his heart.  But his words are out in the open, he has placed himself in the public eye, and we are called to earnestly contend for the faith against those who would corrupt it.  When you say that I am judging Murray you are totally wrong. I do not judge the man,  I listen to his words and the word of God in me speaks and tells me whether his words are correct. I listen to the judgment of God.  I do not judge the man but the words are already judged.  The man may save himself by disassociating himself from the words. 
 
I drive people into the word and offer line by line bible studies.  Arnold Murray's teachings are a cause by which the way of truth is spoken evil of. 
 
If my words regarding Arnold Murray were to actually cause people to turn away from the bible, then it is likely that they put their faith in Arnold Murray and not in the living God.  My writings and teachings come directly from the word of God and if they would rather abandon faith in Christ than conform to the doctrine of Christ in truth, then I cannot do anything for them.  It is like Paul said, I am the savor of life to them that hear me and the savor of death to those who do not.
 
"Christ said judgement on that man will be double fold for no one is to judge no other man,for it is not your judgement but the father judges that man not you."
 
So what gives you the right to judge me?  Isn't that hypocritical of you?  If someone listens to you will you receive double judgment as you have pronounced on me?
 
This is more applicable to Murray, he is misleading people and he should repent, if he does not, it would be better for him to have a millstone hung about his neck and to be cast into the sea.  It is no light thing to take up the word of God.
 
 
"All he ask is you have passion for any man whether they are you neighbor or your enemy. "
 
You seem to know how to rebuke me.  Why do you object to my rebuking Murray?  Why is it ok for you to rebuke but not for me?
 
Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
 
I say it is loving to rebuke. Rebuking the works of Arnold Murray is my way of loving my neighbor and my enemy.  That is love.  Love is not making people feel good.  Love is doing good.
 
"So within my heart all I can pass on to you is love everyone and stop the judging, for we are not the judge."
 
You have basically missed the whole point about judgment.  Jesus told us on several occasions to use judgment (for example  John 7:24).  What he said is, "Judge not that ye be not judged for with what judgment you judge you shall be judged."   But when it comes to false doctrine and false teachers he was explicit and said that we would know them by their fruits.  I judge fruits, not men.  And I expect that I will receive the same judgment, men will judge my works, as you have been doing.
 
That is what makes you a hypocrite.  Because you tell me not to judge, but here you are judging me.  Telling me what I am doing is wrong.
 
"We discuss gods words with love, humility and joy with our savior Jesus Christ through the father. "
 
With brethren.  But the enemies of the Gospel do not play nice and I do not yield to them, not for a moment.
 
"I hope you understand where I am coming from through my letter to you, but was written by me inspired from the father. For god the father works thru men. Amen. "
 
I do understand where you are coming from, you come from but you are not right.  I get letters like yours all the time and, frankly, it is getting boring.  You people do not know the scriptures and while you have my prayers you do not have my respect.
 
Sincerely,
Paul Stringini
 

Emailer's First Reply:

----- Original Message -----
From: Name Withheld
To: Paul Stringini
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Books of the bible
Hi Paul
   I wasn't judging you, I was merely saying we need not to judge another for we have a judge on that day that we will be judge..sorry please forgive me of my judgements. Sometimes it is so hard to express words in my letters.. I do read the the bible as well as I like to listen to the bible, I hear what the words to say to me. But there is a question I have for you that bewilders me for many years. I hear from the pastor in many churches I have gone to but like you you once were under the wings of Arnold Murray and did not believe in his teachings and yet I still cannot find the right church to go too due to some things they say does not relate to what I read. Christ said many times in the four books of mathew,mark,Luke and John when he raised the dead,when the people murmured under there tongue" what can he do now they are dead" then Christ said not to worry for they are not dead but they are sleeping, the little girl,Lazarus and so on. No where did he say that" oh don't worry but they are in heaven right now but i will bring them back to there body" like how everyone saids it today that we go to heaven right after we die. Christ and all the Old Testament Daniel,Moses an all who are followers of Christ" all said we will sleep until his return" Christ was the first to have died and raised in three days and when ascended to heaven, he said to his apostle that teach the world my words and what ever else he said but his last words before he was gone he said" keep watch,for my return".even Saul said no one goes to heaven until his return. 1 Thessalations: ch 4, verse 13-17. No where in the old or new testaments shows or saids we ascend to heaven after we die,but I read we sleep till his second coming to gather his people. So when Christ returns he will raised the dead in him and who are alive and gather then for the battle to come. 
        So this is what I hear from all the churches today say we ascend to heaven right after we die while our flesh is in the ground. But the books say we sleep right where we are till his second coming. Is this how you see it too what they say about how we are raised? Cuz I see the father raising both our flesh and soul all at once, how Christ was raised. but Christ is the first to rise and he ascended to heaven to prepare the way when he returns. another good saying pastors say to is oh he/ she is with there spouse. When we are at a funeral.False cuz Christ said no one is married or given in marriage for they are only angels. Where got this is when the scholars or Pharisee asked him that question about the woman who out lived all the brothers of her first husband. 7 brothers to one woman.  Thank you for listening to my questionaire letter and hope to hear what you have to say and I would like to learn more from you. Again I apologize to any wrong doing in my letters, my feelings are from the heart. God bless  Name Withheld

My Second Response:

I do not have a record of any response to this last email.  I believe I must have either lost or misplaced it. Obviously, I agree with the person in regards to the resurrection of the dead.

 

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