----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Stringini
To: Name Withheld
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Books of the bible
Hi Name Withheld, Thank you for taking the
time to write. I appreciate the sincere spirit in which this was
written.
I do not much like to speculate about things
in the bible beyond what is written in the bible or what may be
reasonably inferred from what is written there.
"No one are a false or misleading
prophet we are all gods children whether we read it right or wrong cuz
god can read our hearts on who we are.if it is passion or deceit. "
The fact that we can not read hearts does
not mean that God does not want us to use discernment. Christ himself
warned of false prophets and told us to beware of them. The Apostle
Paul told us to mark people who went contrary to the doctrine of Christ
(Romans 16:17) This is elementary and taught throughout the bible.
We are not all God's Children, in every
sense of the word unless we start taking things out of context.
1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the
children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of
God,
There are children of God and Children of the devil. Not all people
are children of God.
Faith in Christ makes us God's children by
adoption.
1John 3:26 For ye are all the children of
God by faith in Christ Jesus.
There are many false Christ's gone out into
the world, faith in a false Christ will not save us, and Arnold Murray
does not preach the same Christ as I do. So we cannot both be Children
of God.
Doctrine is important, that is why Jesus
said to beware of the doctrine of the scribes and Pharisees.
Use your Strong's concordance to look up the
word "doctrine" and read all that the bible says about how important it
is.
"Through out the book of our
father,all who lived before and live today do not read the words and Dr
Arnold Murray is reading the words of the books no matter what book he
is reading they all are inspired through the living word. "
By His commentary he corrupts the word of
God. Reading it is not good enough, unless you add nothing to it.
Arnold Murray adds many false teachings to his exposition of the word.
I used to be a student of Murray and I deny
your basic premise. All who listen to Murray are not getting into the
word. Many are getting into his imaginations, fables, genealogies,
times, days, months, years, and other things which add nothing to the
Gospel of Christ but rather leaven their minds with foolish and
unlearned doctrines of devils and commandments of men.
"Christ also said if any man judges
another and others heard from you about that man causing you to make
others stray from the word, "
Nonsense, that is a poor application of what
Christ taught. I do not judge anything. For one, I do not judge
Arnold Murray. The teachings that come out of his mouth are already
judged by the word of God. I cannot look into Arnold Murray's mind and
see what his motives are. I do never judge his heart. But his words
are out in the open, he has placed himself in the public eye, and we are
called to earnestly contend for the faith against those who would
corrupt it. When you say that I am judging Murray you are totally
wrong. I do not judge the man, I listen to his words and the word of
God in me speaks and tells me whether his words are correct. I listen to
the judgment of God. I do not judge the man but the words are already
judged. The man may save himself by disassociating himself from the
words.
I drive people into the word and offer line
by line bible studies. Arnold Murray's teachings are a cause by which
the way of truth is spoken evil of.
If my words regarding Arnold Murray were to
actually cause people to turn away from the bible, then it is likely
that they put their faith in Arnold Murray and not in the living God.
My writings and teachings come directly from the word of God and if they
would rather abandon faith in Christ than conform to the doctrine of
Christ in truth, then I cannot do anything for them. It is like Paul
said, I am the savor of life to them that hear me and the savor of death
to those who do not.
"Christ said judgement on that man
will be double fold for no one is to judge no other man,for it is not
your judgement but the father judges that man not you."
So what gives you the right to judge me?
Isn't that hypocritical of you? If someone listens to you will you
receive double judgment as you have pronounced on me?
This is more applicable to Murray, he is
misleading people and he should repent, if he does not, it would be
better for him to have a millstone hung about his neck and to be cast
into the sea. It is no light thing to take up the word of God.
"All he ask is you have passion for
any man whether they are you neighbor or your enemy. "
You seem to know how to rebuke me. Why do
you object to my rebuking Murray? Why is it ok for you to rebuke but
not for me?
Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in
thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer
sin upon him.
I say it is loving to rebuke. Rebuking the
works of Arnold Murray is my way of loving my neighbor and my enemy.
That is love. Love is not making people feel good. Love is doing good.
"So within my heart all I can pass
on to you is love everyone and stop the judging, for we are not the
judge."
You have basically missed the whole point
about judgment. Jesus told us on several occasions to use judgment (for
example John 7:24). What he said is, "Judge not that ye be not judged
for with what judgment you judge you shall be judged." But when it
comes to false doctrine and false teachers he was explicit and said that
we would know them by their fruits. I judge fruits, not men. And I
expect that I will receive the same judgment, men will judge my works,
as you have been doing.
That is what makes you a hypocrite. Because
you tell me not to judge, but here you are judging me. Telling me what
I am doing is wrong.
"We discuss gods words with love,
humility and joy with our savior Jesus Christ through the father. "
With brethren. But the enemies of the
Gospel do not play nice and I do not yield to them, not for a moment.
"I hope you understand where I am
coming from through my letter to you, but was written by me inspired
from the father. For god the father works thru men. Amen. "
I do understand where you are coming from,
you come from but you are not right. I get letters like yours all the
time and, frankly, it is getting boring. You people do not know the
scriptures and while you have my prayers you do not have my respect.
Sincerely,
Paul Stringini
----- Original Message -----
From: Name Withheld
To: Paul Stringini
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Books of the bible
Hi Paul
I wasn't judging you, I was merely saying we need not to judge
another for we have a judge on that day that we will be judge..sorry
please forgive me of my judgements. Sometimes it is so hard to express
words in my letters.. I do read the the bible as well as I like to
listen to the bible, I hear what the words to say to me. But there is a
question I have for you that bewilders me for many years. I hear from
the pastor in many churches I have gone to but like you you once were
under the wings of Arnold Murray and did not believe in his teachings
and yet I still cannot find the right church to go too due to some
things they say does not relate to what I read. Christ said many times
in the four books of mathew,mark,Luke and John when he raised the
dead,when the people murmured under there tongue" what can he do now
they are dead" then Christ said not to worry for they are not dead but
they are sleeping, the little girl,Lazarus and so on. No where did he
say that" oh don't worry but they are in heaven right now but i will
bring them back to there body" like how everyone saids it today that we
go to heaven right after we die. Christ and all the Old Testament
Daniel,Moses an all who are followers of Christ" all said we will sleep
until his return" Christ was the first to have died and raised in three
days and when ascended to heaven, he said to his apostle that teach the
world my words and what ever else he said but his last words before he
was gone he said" keep watch,for my return".even Saul said no one goes
to heaven until his return. 1 Thessalations: ch 4, verse 13-17. No where
in the old or new testaments shows or saids we ascend to heaven after we
die,but I read we sleep till his second coming to gather his people. So
when Christ returns he will raised the dead in him and who are alive and
gather then for the battle to come.
So this is what I hear from all the churches today say we ascend
to heaven right after we die while our flesh is in the ground. But the
books say we sleep right where we are till his second coming. Is this
how you see it too what they say about how we are raised? Cuz I see the
father raising both our flesh and soul all at once, how Christ was
raised. but Christ is the first to rise and he ascended to heaven to
prepare the way when he returns. another good saying pastors say to is
oh he/ she is with there spouse. When we are at a funeral.False cuz
Christ said no one is married or given in marriage for they are only
angels. Where got this is when the scholars or Pharisee asked him that
question about the woman who out lived all the brothers of her first
husband. 7 brothers to one woman. Thank you for listening to my
questionaire letter and hope to hear what you have to say and I would
like to learn more from you. Again I apologize to any wrong doing in my
letters, my feelings are from the heart. God bless Name Withheld