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What Difference does it Make? When Tolerance Becomes Apathy and Apathy Becomes Corruption.
The Question/Comment:
----- Original Message -----From: Name and Address WithheldTo: reborn@oraclesofgod.org (Paul Stringini)Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 3:10 PMSubject: ChapelHi, I do not understand what difference it makes to all what happened before. I do not care, it is interesting but that is it. Any time anyone puts their trust in a person they will be disappointed. All men make mistakes. We all know the Bible is not the complete text. God said he would never let them take out anything that was pertaining to our salvation. I believe that. I have been listening to the Chapel for years. I know he is a man. I do not believe in all he teaches. I do not believe in Christmas as of the day of birth, nor the day of conception. As with all of the holidays, they were brought into the Church to bring the pagans in they were all pagan holidays. I also do not believe in celebrating birthdays. I listen to God not man. May God Bless you, in Christ love your sister, xxxxxx
My Response:
----- Original Message -----From: reborn@oraclesofgod.orgTo: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSent: Monday, December 03, 2007 2:14 PMSubject: Re: Chapel
It isn't about putting your trust in a person, there are many teachers which I never studied with whom I know are false teachers. It is nice for you and me that we never placed our trust in Arnold Murray or the Shepherd's Chapel (I only studied with him for 3 years, I only bought all his materials because I was hungry for knowledge and ignorant). But there are many simpler folks who have trusted him.Thirteen years after I stopped studying with Dr. Murray had noticed that most of his critics were as bad as he was and missed many important aspects of his teaching. Having studied with him for three years, I realized that I had knowledge and experience which I should share. Dr. Murray is the only teacher I have really ever studied extensively. I believe writing what I have written is my responsibility as a Christian:Ro16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
Ro16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.You cannot ignore the fact that the scriptures are saturated with materials against false teachers. The kind of tolerance which you are preaching was never taught by the Lord Jesus Christ or his Apostles, it is devilish. A little leaven leavens the whole lump. If Dr. Murray's doctrine is even a little bit false then the whole thing is evil. That is the way Jesus Christ taught.Mat 13:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
People say to me, all the time, "no one can have doctrine that is ALL right, everyone makes mistakes!" That is the wisdom of man speaking. But Jesus' doctrine is clear, our doctrine must be pure. Unleavened. Uncorrupt.Things like Christmas and birthdays are a matter of conscience, that is not the kind of thing I'm concerned about at all. I don't "believe in" Christmas, birthdays, the length of Jesus hair, or sabbathkeeping but I have opinions on all of these. What I'm marking out Dr. Murray for is perversion of important Christian doctrine and for making central to his teaching non-Christian doctrines like "Kenites" and participation in a preexistential Satanic battleground and such like.Periferal issues are not what this is about, it is about the core of what he teaches. I made it about that and it will continue to be about thatSincerely,Paul Stringini
Emailer's Reply:
----- Original Message -----From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSent: Monday, December 03, 2007 6:42 PMSubject: Re: Chapel
God bless you Paul. Your sister in Christ. xxxxxx
Comment:
I'm still not sure what to think of that response, I think it is just saying, "I don't wish to speak to you anymore." Thing is, if she disagrees with me I don't see why they would bless me in what I'm doing. As far as I am concerned it is a big deal, because Dr. Murray is still teaching the same false doctrine he was teaching back in the early 90's (unless I missed something???) So long as he does not repent I do not see why he should not be a marked man.
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