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"It is a Sin to Judge... You Are a Baby Christian... Throw Yourself in Front of a Bus"

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----- Original Message -----

From: reborn@oraclesofgod.org

To: 

Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:20 PM

Subject: Re: it is a sin to judge

 

Hi, Thanks for writing.

 

It is not a sin to judge, Jesus himself said so.

 

Matt 23:23...and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done,

 

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

 

You are thinking of this concept (much like "judge not that you be not judged") but it does not mean that we are to exercise "NO JUDGMENT" or how about "BAD JUDGMENT"

 

Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

 

And be honest with yourself, you judge things all the time, all the words that you wrote me were filled with judgment.  You cannot escape doing judgment.  You have declared that anyone who listens to one man is crazy,  you have made yourself a judge over them.  If that is a righteous judgment then it is right to judge so, but if not then no. "judge righteous judgment." That is a command.

 

Rom2:2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things

 

When people do certain things we do not have to judge them ourselves, God has already judged these things, like false prophets and such, we know the judgment of God concerning such things.  So if I say, "false prophets are going to burn in the lake of fire"  that is not my judgment, that is the judgment of God.

 

Now, If I see a man preaching false doctrine and I say "that is false doctrine"  it may be according to my opinion, but I substantiate everything I say with the word of God,  that is what is judging him for me.  As for my opinions,  judge them for yourself.  But you must judge,  neglecting to do judgment is a sin.

 

Sincerely,

Paul

Emailer's Response:

----- Original Message -----

From: 

To: reborn@oraclesofgod.org

Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:06 PM

Subject: Re: it is a sin to judge

Wow, Scripter lawyer i have here.

You know instead of quoting scriptures to me all you had to do is write me from a true heart that loves Jesus and say "I am afraid to watch the man cause my faith is only strong when i quote scriptures to other people and if I watch i might believe and be deceived.

You are still a baby Christian who needs to have a all trusting heart for the lord.

Yes, I judge, I sin, but I am not stupid, and I do not quote scriptures, or be deceived by no one, unless I want to.

Have you forgot you way, trust in the man who saves you and he will not lead you in the wrong path.

My Response:

----- Original Message -----

From: reborn@oraclesofgod.org

To: 

Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:20 PM

Subject: Re: it is a sin to judge

 

I said judge righteous judgment, and your judgment concerning me is not right.  Believe me, I'm not afraid to listen to or watch Arnold Murray, except that I might be bored to death as he plays the same couple notes from his horn over, and over, and over.

 

Dr, Murray ceased to be interesting to me over ten years ago.  I wrote what I wrote because he is a teacher of falsehood and I happen to have studied with him extensively.  Maybe in the future I'll write more stuff about other groups. 

 

Why does quoting the scriptures make me a scripture lawyer?  You obviously don't even know what a scripture lawyer is. It is just a word that you have heard and you have made up your own definition for and now parrot as though you actually know what you are talking about or who you are talking to. 

 

When you say, "It is a sin to judge."  I don't have to open my bible to know that you are a liar,  I only do that for your sake, because if the word of God was in you, then you would not make such statements.  If the spirit of God was guiding you, then you would not follow such perverse doctrines of men and be setting yourself  up as a lawmaker.  (Which is what you have done, by declaring judgment a sin)

 

I'm not in a conversation with you do defend my "trust in the Lord."  I'm here to discuss doctrine.  If you want to speak from your imaginations and try to play "gotcha" games with me and name-call, have at it, but there is no righteousness in your judgment.  I do not see my Lord in any of your words. 

 

All your talk is pretty much just a bunch of hot gas, if you are intentionally trying to make me angry, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I'll sleep soundly tonight confident in the knowledge of the fact that you have about as little true insight into my walk with the Lord as I can imagine.

 

Calling someone else a "baby" is generally something only 5 and 6 year olds do (I know, I have six kids), "I don't want to watch Barney, that's a "baby" show." "Chutes and ladders" that game is for babies."  Anyway, that kind of name-calling speaks volumes about your level maturity. 

 

I take the time to respond seriously to your childish rant because that is the way I am with kids, even rude and insolent ones.

 

Sincerely,

Paul

Emailer's Response:

----- Original Message -----

From: 

To: reborn@oraclesofgod.org

Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:42 AM

Subject: Re: it is a sin to judge

I did not read all of your email cause you think you are better then me and just want to bring me down. I will not play games with you.

Please do me a favor through yourself in front of a bus and see if you live. Cause you must be Jesus himself. Wow, you are something else. 

I will not open another email from you so you can write and write. good bye.

My Response:

I didn't bother writing back, I don't do this for my own amusement.

When my wife read this remark "Please do me a favor through yourself in front of a bus and see if you live. Cause you must be Jesus himself." She immediately remarked that it reminded her of the Devil's temptation of Christ on the pinnacle of the temple,  "Cast thyself down."  If Jesus was not willing to tempt God, why should I tempt God? And why does this guy tempt me using the Devil's strategy on someone he considers a "baby Christian?"

When people start accusing me of thinking I'm "Jesus himself," it makes me think that I must be on the right track, because there is something in my behavior that forces them to remark (in frustration) that I "think I'm Jesus."  I guess because I must be talking like him or something.  That is my goal, after all, to be like Jesus (definitely not there yet)  That is what it means to me to be a Christian, I am supposed to be a "Little Christ." No, I don't think I'm Jesus, but I'm trying to be, and I will succeed.

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