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"My Pastor/Teacher goes thru Fathers Word as Pastor Murray and broadcasts worldwide.
We are the generation full of zeal for Father's Word.  We are not as reserved as Dr Murray." 
A Shepherd's Chapel Knock-off Group Speaks Up.

Question/Comment:

----- Original Message -----
From: Teacher Pastor
To: reborn@oraclesofgod.org (Paul Stringini)
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:28 PM
Subject: Shepherd's Chapel

I believe your comments on Dr Murray are disturbing, fasle and taken out of context,  it is shamefull. Truely you are GOOD.  You twist them just...  just enough to convince the unlearned reader or new lamb to your deceit.  May Father have mercy on you dear sir.   My Pastor/Teacher goes thru Fathers Word as Pastor Murray and broadcasts worldwide.  We know him as well but do not speak for him.  He is an Elder now and we are the generation full of zeal for Father's Word.  We are not as reserved as Dr Murray.  I am sure our Teacher would consider it an honor to debate via a Forum or interview by phone, or broadcast.  We know in whom and in what we believe and are not ashamed to defend our Father's Word one on one without the trappings of being taken out of context as you have done to Elder Murray.  If you want the truth on Kenites, The "Rapture", the Earth Ages, Serpent Seed or any other of the topic's you've distorted,  fill free to contact us and let us reason together.  If you're not will to defend your believe's and postings then the fair and "brotherly" thing to do would be to remove your Shepherd's Chapel postings. Thanks for your time. XXXX

My First Response:edits in maroon and in ( ), as in: (this is an example of an edit)

This message was confusing at first, I did not really understand that "My Teacher/Pastor" did not Refer to "Brother Murray." There were other similar aspects of this writer's message which I initially failed to grasp, which were due in part to my own oversight, but mainly to his own lack of clarity.

This guy is the "Pastor" from a Shepherd's Chapel knock-off group. I have not really run into many of these, so I did not recognize it at first and I really did not pay that much attention to that part of the message because I really don't care who his "teacher" is. This E-mail came from "pastor" @XXXXXXX.com so I don't know what this guy was trying to pull, or who he really was.

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Stringini
To: Teacher Pastor
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Shepherd's Chapel

You say you do not speak for Dr. Murray, but you suggest you can arrange a debate.  If you don't speak for Dr. Murray I don't see how that is possible.  In any case, why would Dr. Murray debate me?  I'm nobody, he is the one with the world-wide ministry.  (Obviously, this was a misunderstanding on my part)
 

You say that I have distorted the serpent seed and other doctrines.  I have had lengthy debates with some very dedicated Shepherd's Chapel students and they have never suggested that I misrepresent Dr. Murray, but instead they say that I am wrong to disagree with his teachings.   On my webpage, I have asked to be informed if I have misrepresented Dr. Murray's side of the argument at any point.   There have been a few drive-by accusers like you, but none of them, no one, has ever given me any specific reference to a single instance where I have misrepresented the CONTENT of what Dr. Murray teaches, ever. 

(Since I disagree with what Dr. Murray teaches, it could be said that I misrepresent what the Bible teaches, inasmuch as Dr. Murray and I disagree on the true interpretation of the scriptures, but I am accurate about the CONTENT of Dr. Murray's teaching, to the best of my knowledge, noone has ever seriously suggested otherwise [and until you give me a specific example I cannot say you are serious]).  

 
It is EXTREMELY important to me that I accurately portray Dr. Murray's teaching.  If I misrepresent what Dr. Murray teaches, then I might as well take my page down, because if Dr. Murray does not teach as I say he does, then I have nothing against him.  But as someone who studied with Dr. Murray for nearly four years and who owns hundreds of his cassettes and videos, I am confident that I have an accurate understanding of the doctrines of Dr. Murray.
 
I disagree with his doctrines.  You may think I'm wrong in disagreeing, and be that as it may...   I have not misrepresented any of his teachings, you owe it to me and to the Shepherd's Chapel to state EXACTLY what that misrepresentation is. Otherwise you are just a vain talker.  The other possibility is that you have not been a very good student of Dr. Murray and you have not learned his doctrines to their full depth, and so maybe you think I'm misrepresenting his teachings because you do not know them very well...but you don't seem to be like that.
 
Sincerely
Paul Stringini

Emailer's First Reply:

----- Original Message -----
From: Teacher Pastor
To: Paul Stringini
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: Shepherd's Chapel

I will gladly take the time and send you bullet points on the errors in doctrine of Elder Murray.   I can see why things get distorted with you now...  If you can not read and discern my humble e-mail, then God's Word would be tough.  I did not even hint at a meeting with Dr Murray.  Our ministry is called XXXXXXXXXXXXXX- (no free plugs to lazy-bones who do not keep their word, I am still waiting for those bullet points).  If you read the prior msg you will see... I wanted our teacher to discuess your error in doctrine that is distorted and out of context.  Thanks for your time.

My Second Response: edits in maroon and in ( ), as in: (this is an example of an edit)

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Stringini
To: Teacher Pastor
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Shepherd's Chapel

Perhaps If you had written a little more concisely I would understand you.  It does not suit one who butchers grammar, as you do, to insult someone for being unable to decipher his incoherent mumblings.  If you want to insult me, then be my guest, your pitiable emails will make fine trophies on my webpage.  I don't care who your teacher is, you never even named him.  I am right here, and if he wants to debate me, he can write me.   You, on the other hand, can send me those bullet points.

Emailer's Second Reply:

...I'm still waiting

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