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If you are so driven by seeking the truth why don't you just do that and leave Arnold Murray out of your studies?

Question/Comment:

----- Original Message -----
From: Name Withheld
To: Paul Stringini
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 4:13 PM
Subject: God
If you are so driven by seeking the truth why don't you just do that and leave Arnold Murray out of your studies. You appear to be jealous of him and his teachings and want to find a following based on that. You have a right to study anyway you want and Arnold Murray teaches that. Why do you have to slander his teachings to do that? What drives you to slander his name? Maybe you should think about that. A true teacher of God does not have to slander another to be blessed as a teacher. Can't you teach what you believe and receive your blessings from God as I believe Arnold Murray does. Why do you have the desire to teach anything about another man? It should be the word of God taught not what you think another man should be teaching. It seems you are jealous and maybe you need to think about why you have the desire to bring down another man instead of teaching the word of God if that is truly your calling.

My First Response:

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Stringini
To: Name Withheld
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: God
When I was young, Arnold Murray waylaid me on the way to the truth,  I'm not in any way bitter about it, it was part of my growing up in the truth.  But you are basically asking me to keep what I know about his false teachings a secret.  If there is an active a child molester in the neighborhood do you think it is a righteous thing to protect the child molester and keep his activities secret?  That is the kind of morality you are trying to tell me I should follow. I do what I do in order to help other people avoid a false teacher.  A false teacher is not much different than a child molester, he doesn't touch your body but he damages minds all the same. The bible specifically directs us to mark false teachers such as Arnold Murray. 
 
Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
Paul even put the names of a few guys into the bible who taught false doctrine
 
2 Tim 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
 
Interestingly enough Arnold Murray also commits this heresy.  When he claims that the dead are "already with him."  He is claiming that they have already risen and ascended to heaven.  The resurrection does not happen till the last day.
 
Jesus is the only one who has risen and ascended to heaven.  That is what the bible says.  Of course when you study with Arnold it is more important to remember what Arnold says the bible REALLY says.
 
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
 
Arnold Murray is an heretic of BIBLICAL proportions, right up there with Hymenaeus and Philetus.
It is right to tell people about him.  It is right to denounce him by name. It would be hateful to my neighbors to let this false teacher go on unhindered.  
 
He puts himself out on the air into millions of homes, and you want him to be immune to criticism?  Well, he can be a big boy and take his medicine. It is no sin to tell people the truth about him, the only one who says it is wrong is Murray himself.  This is also a false doctrine.  He is also a hypocrite,  he does  teaches against other teachers,  just not on TV, well, I'm not on TV either.  Have you ever seen him in person?  Have you been to Passover or Tabernacles?  He is a hypocrite, open your eyes.  he puts down other teachers CONSTANTLY. Who? any teacher that does not teach like him, which is just about EVEYONE, he doesn't need to name them and you know it.
 
And I do have my own bible studies if you are interested, all free:  http://oraclesofgod.org/studies/studies.html
 
Sincerely, Paul  Stringini
 

Comment: I would like to add additionally that in my bible studies I only very, very, rarely make reference to Arnold Murray, and only when relevant, because he was my teacher, after all.  But my bible studies (on my bible studies page) are, in no way, some sort of further exploration of Shepherd's Chapel doctrine.  I would also like to add that I have NEVER slandered Arnold Murray, that is a ridiculous claim.   My commentary on his ministry and teaching is not slander by any stretch of the imagination.  To call it such is a revelation of ignorance on the part of the accuser.

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