Exposition #1  Read between the lines.

Question/Comment: 

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Name Withheld"
To: <Paul Stringini>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:33 PM
Subject: Shepherd's Chapel

Hello, My name is Name Withheld... I was brought up in a religion that is considered a cult.  But you know what?... It's not a cult. It's a way of life. We are call ourselves Isrealites.  We were fed the Bible. We ate, slept, Bible, Bible, Bible everything.  Even our songs are all Scripture... They believe in the trinity, the church split because some believed that Jesus was the son of  God and some didn't.  Here's what I believe. Heaven is only a name for God's Kingdom, we're only separated by a veil. God's Kingdom will be right here on Earth... Jesus is the son of God... we all are.  Don't ask me how I know these things... When I was a child I used to have visions... not uncommon in my  family... I used to have violent nightmares there were even times when I thought I was having out of body experiences... didn't know anything about it at that age... but how?  Dreamed of place just space.  I never heard Dr. Murray say anything about other gods... but I do believe that the ancient gods were actually fallen angels.  Do you believe in God... all this stuff is supernatural not impossible.... after all, we're here.  Read between the lines.  Of course Scripture backs up the Satan/Eve thing. Did you know that Jewish folklore is that Eve was #3.  Murray doesn't teach that.  NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE.  Do you realize how many devastating disasters have taken place lately.  Time is nothing to God... 1 day = 1000 years... come on.. These ARE the end of days. You have to forgive me... I'm all over the place... You actually sound like one of those SC bashers and not a once-time member.  The Bible says, after all the thees and thous and beholds... LOVE ME. OBEY ME. PRAISE ME. (God speaking)

My Response:

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Stringini
To: Name Withheld
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Shepherd's Chapel
Hi Name Withheld,
 
I was brought up in a religion that is  considered a cult.  But you know what?... It's not a cult. It's a way of life.
 
Isn't that like saying, "An orange is not a fruit, it's a FOOD."  You are confusing categories, cults are ways of life.  Maybe you prefer to think of it more as a way of life than as a "cult," (which carries a stigma) but your perceptions are distorted by your involvement in the thing.  I don't know anything about your "cult."  I don't go around saying this or that religion is a "cult"  The way you frame your letter tells me that you are presuming things about me. I consider my own religion to be a cult, a fanatical cult. So what? 
 
We are call ourselves Isrealites. 
If you mean Israelites "inwardly" then fine. But if you think you are Israelites by blood and you are not Jewish, then your cult/way of life was actually a synagogue of Satan. 
 
We were fed the Bible. We ate, slept, Bible, Bible, Bible everything. 

You can say that, but I'm going to judge that statement based on your fruit.  When or if you begin to tell me unbiblical ideas, I'll know the truth.  Every true deceiver uses the bible.  You should have learned that already.  If you are instructed in the bible in a corrupt way, then how can you really say you ate and drank it?
 
2Cor 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
 
What if what you were fed was corruption of the word of God?  What if you were conditioned to believe things that are false?
 
Even our songs are all Scripture...
 
Excellent.  But I like my scripture songs the best.  http://oraclesofgod.org/songs/index.htm
 
They believe in  the trinity, the church split because some believed that Jesus was the son of 
God and some didn't. 
 
And all these people were fed the word of God?  This statement is proof enough. How can you have a church that believes the Trinity and yet has division over whether Jesus was the son of God or not?  If they were all truly eating and drinking the word of God, then they all should have known the truth about who Christ is.  But because of corruption there was darkness.  How can you say they believed in the Trinity, but did not believe that Christ was God's son?
 
Here's what I believe. Heaven is only a name for God's  Kingdom, we're only separated by a veil. God's Kingdom will be right here on 
Earth...
 
I don't believe in "Going to heaven," I believe in the resurrection of the dead and the kingdom of God here on earth, but to say heaven is "only a name for God's kingdom" is not accurate.  Heaven is where Christ ascended to.  The kingdom of God is the name for when the powers of heaven comes down to rule on earth, in the hearts of men, and ultimately, through Christ's return, in world domination.  You seem to have a backward view of things.
 
Jesus is the son of God...
 
True.
 
we all are. 
 
Not true. 
 
If we were all the sons of God, then the scriptures would not speak of us as BECOMING the sons of God.
 
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
 
Only those who believe in Christ, who is God's son (in a special and completely unique sense) can obtain the power to BECOME the sons of God.
 
That is why the bible talks about ADOPTION, because we are not the sons of God by nature.  Jesus was the Son of God by nature.  Humans are only the "children of God" in the same way dogs and pigs are also his children, because we are his creation.  But Jesus is not merely a created creature, Jesus Christ is God's son because he shares the same nature with the father, he is a REAL son.  We are not Gods, but God's son is God because he is his son and he was begotten after his nature.  The only way we can become sons of God like Christ is by the ADOPTION.
 
Ephesians:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
 
Galatians 4:4 But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Those without faith in Jesus Christ are not God's children.
 
Brenda,  these are very basic Christian concepts, and you do not grasp them.  I have question what you were fed in the group you describe as a cult... actually, I'll positively tell you that they fed you with corruption,  you need to be instructed in the basic ideas of the bible, because you are evidently not aware of them.  I recommend my line by line bible studies http://oraclesofgod.org/studies/studies.html
 
Don't ask me how I know these  things...
 
Why do you assume I would ask you how you know these things? That is a telling sentence.   I'm a serious student of the scriptures. When I hear nonsense I do not ask where it came from. It becomes a mess.  I would rather cut through  the nonsense and let you figure our where it came from.  I know where the corruption comes from.  There is so much corruption and darkness out there.  I can tell you the truth,  you don't have the truth, so I really don't care where you picked up your ideas.  I know I sound harsh, but I don't have time to pussyfoot around, my love for you is to speak the truth plainly to you.  Accept it or reject it.
 
When I was a child I used to have visions... not uncommon in my family... I used to have violent nightmares there were even times when I thought I was having out of body experiences... didn't know anything about it at that age... but how?  Dreamed of place just space. 
 
I'm a serious student of the scriptures, not a dreamer.  "The prophet that hath a dream let him tell a dream, he that hath my word let him keep my word faithfully, what is the Chaff to the wheat?" Jeremiah 23
 
I dream too, I just don't make a mountain out of a molehill.  Jeremiah called dreams chaff.  Not that God does not use dreams, but we have the word of God,  which is better than dreams and imaginations.  I do not respect your biblical knowledge, so why would I give any credence to your dreams? 

If I can see that God has not revealed his truth to you through the word of God, then why would I have any respect for your dreams?  Why would God not instruct you in the word, and then give you a dream which was congruent with the word?
 
I never heard Dr. Murray say  anything about other gods... but I do believe that the ancient gods were actually fallen angels. 
 
Sure. Well, I suppose you are entitled to have an opinion.  But what do we really know of such things and how shall the knowledge of such things aid us in obtaining Eternal Life?
 
1Cor 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
 
If you are saying that you believe the stories of the Greek Gods in legends are actually the true accounts of supernatural beings...  I find that hard to believe. That is conjecture.  Interesting, but useless.  I don't believe in the Greek legends.  Though I suppose there may be some connection between those legends and actual events I would not put much belief in that kind of speculation. 
Do you believe in God...
 
You did not do much reading before you started writing did you?   I suppose you meant this as a rhetorical question.  If I believe in God then:
 
all this stuff is supernatural not impossible....
 
Ok... Supernatural means 'beyond nature" or outside the natural order.  The natural order,  according to man,  is the observable world.  Obviously to man, God is outside the natural order, supernatural, and I suppose to God the natural world would be outside the natural order, supernatural. 

But this is being said in context with the "Greek gods" comment in which case I would have to say that just because something is not "impossible"  does not make it likely in the least.
 
after all, we're here. 
 
We certainly are.   But what are we doing? 
 
Read between the lines. 
 
NO. Absolutely not. I hate that.  NO!  READ THE LINES.  Stop looking between the lines and start reading what men have dared to call the WORDS OF GOD.  What a vain philosophy! Read between the lines!  I hate it.  I utterly hate it. You did not learn this foolishness from the word. In your anxiousness to find out secrets, you have ignored the words of the Almighty and allowed men to lead you astray. 
 
Col 2:18...intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
DO NOT read between the lines, because there is nothing there from God, but blank space for men to insert their own ideas.  READ THE WORDS.  The devil hides between the lines.  "Hath God said?"  God sent his word, and man did not like it, so they try to get their ears itched between the lines.  That attitude disgusts me. 
 
Psalm 119:103 How sweet are thy words unto my taste! yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth! 104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.
 
Those who teach us to read between the lines corrupt the word of God.
 
Of course  Scripture backs up the Satan/Eve thing. 
 
No, it does not, men use scripture to "back up" their lies, but that is not what the scripture does, the scripture testifies against them.  They are abusing the scriptures and corrupting them.  They have changed the image of the incorruptible God into an image made like unto corruptible man. When one submits themselves to the scriptures, instead of using the bible to back up their imaginations, a far different result is gained.
For more on the "Satan Eve Thing" Visit My Page dedicated to that subject.
 
Cain was Adam's son, that is what the bible plainly says.
 
Genesis 4:11 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain,  (that is how it happened, if the bible is to be believed)
 
I have gone over the "Satan/eve thing"  dozens of times, you can read about it on my website, I'm not going to discuss this with you, you get one rebuke.   If you were diligent you might find the truth, but if you lazily accept junk doctrine like the serpent seed you will be swallowed up in deception.
 
1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
 
The children of the devil are spiritual. Not carnal.  You are deceived.
 
Did you know that Jewish folklore is  that Eve was #3.  Murray doesn't teach that. 
 
The legend of Lilith,  I heard of that, but I don't give it any heed.
 
Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
 
Lilith would be the prime example of a Jewish fable.
 
NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. 
 
It is impossible for God to lie.  And God's word says that Eve was Adam's wife from the beginning, Lilith is not in the bible. 
 
1Timothy 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
 
Nothing between.
 
 Do you  realize how many devastating disasters have taken place lately. 
 
Do you realize how many have happened in the past?  They happen continually.   There is currently no acceleration of natural disasters.  They have been claiming that since before you and I were born.  It is NONSENSE.
 
Mark 13:7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
Mark 13:8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.
Mark 13:9 But take heed to yourselves:
Take heed to yourself, not to the disasters around you.
 
Time is nothing  to God... 1 day = 1000 years... come on..
 
I don't know if time is "nothing" to God.  You are too quick to speak, too slow to hear.  A day is as a thousand years, yes, but your words are too broad. 
 
Genesis 21:2 ...at the set time of which God had spoken ...
 
Ecclesiastes 3:17 God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.
 
Acts3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began
 
Romans 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
 
These ARE the end of days.
 
Nope, Not yet.  They have been telling me I have been living in the end times for 37 years, and apparently they thought so even before that, but the truth is that not even one single sign of the end has yet come to pass, NOT ONE.  We are not in the end yet.  Period.  It may be near, but we are not in it yet.  Of course, if you just keep saying we are in the end eventually you will be right.  But no less foolish.
 
You have to  forgive me... I'm all over the place...
 
You need not repent of that!
 
 You actually sound like one of those SC  bashers and not a once-time member. 
 
Then you need to look at this page http://oraclesofgod.org/emails/special2.htm
 
 
 The Bible says, after all the thees and  thous and beholds...
 
 
don't discount the small things.  After all you like to look where nothing is written.  I like to pay attention to the who's and the thou's and the what's when's and why's
 
LOVE ME. OBEY ME. PRAISE ME. (God speaking)
Love who? What is love?  How do I love one whom I know not?  Obey what, who, when, why?  Praise what, who, when, WHY?  You must know God to do any of that.   You oversimplify the complex and over complexify the simple.  Name Withheld, listen to my bible studies, repent or, please, leave me alone.
 
Sincerely,
Paul Stringini